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Juan Dela Cruz · September 1st, 2007, 07:35 PM

I'm a little confused, whats the difference of the two?

Paul Izbicki · September 1st, 2007, 07:56 PM

To me, a Redhead is a DeSisti open face quartz fixture.

The term Bluehead is unknown to me, but I wonder if someone coined it to describe Arri, with their blue paint?

Richard Andrewski · September 1st, 2007, 10:02 PM

Redheads were originally made by Strand but have had many copies as does every popular fixture. Never heard of blue head...

Brian Drysdale · September 2nd, 2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Andrewski

Redheads were originally made by Strand but have had many copies as does every popular fixture. Never heard of blue head...

The Redhead was first made by Ianiro, I gather Red being the only colour available for fibre glass at that time. Stand marketed them in various markets.

http://www.ianiro.com/redhead_fibre.asp

They also came up with the 2k Blonde - it's yellow.

David Garvin · September 5th, 2007, 08:07 PM

And as Brian implies, but nobody's specifically stated, a RedHead is a 1k.

I've been on shoots where Redhead is used in a generic sense to refer to any bowl-like 1k open faced light.

I specify "bowl like" because I've never heard anybody refer to a Mickey as a RedHead, but just about any other 1k open face (no matter what the color) may sometimes be referred to as a Redhead even if, technically, it's not.

Brian Drysdale · September 12th, 2007, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Garvin

And as Brian implies, but nobody's specifically stated, a RedHead is a 1k.

I've been on shoots where Redhead is used in a generic sense to refer to any bowl-like 1k open faced light.

I specify "bowl like" because I've never heard anybody refer to a Mickey as a RedHead, but just about any other 1k open face (no matter what the color) may sometimes be referred to as a Redhead even if, technically, it's not.

1k in 120 volt countries, 800 watt in 220-240 volt countries. You can also get 30 volt 250 watt bulbs for use as a battery light (or at least you used to, I haven't checked recently and usually the 650 watt type heads get used as battery lights).

It has become a generic term rather like Hoover, even the Arri version gets called a Redhead.

John Jay · September 29th, 2007, 02:39 PM

The Redhead is a versatile unit which can also take the small J type 78mm linear bulbs, these are very cheap too!

so you can go from 100w to 300w in 50w jumps in addition to the traditional 650,800,1000w sizes

Scott S. Thomas · October 25th, 2007, 04:24 AM

I believe you may be referring to Redheads and Blondes...

Here is a link that describes different lighting types:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Movie_M...ing#Bulb_Types

hope this helps.

Scott.

Bill Pryor · April 19th, 2008, 11:13 AM

Those Desist "redheads" look just like the "real" Ianiro Redheads. I wonder if they got a new U.S. importer: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Open_Face.html

There are some Chinese "redheads" that you can immediately spot because they are much more red than orange. The "real" redheads are orange. Also, the Chinese version is 800 watts max.

John Hartney · April 24th, 2008, 06:08 PM

ABC net used to issue a three light kit that consisted of 3 redheads. These were marketed by Strand. I too think they're the best open faced light out there. Very smooth and even light through out its range.

My kit is patched mostly from lights I use, but I did start with the 3 light redhead kit, I've picked up two more since that long time ago and use them regularly. I'm also using divas, moles and I'm looking into leds. Buy what you'll use. I'm not much of a kit guy.

I wouldn't trust the Chinese knock off red heads on ebay. These are HOT lights.

Bill Pryor · April 24th, 2008, 07:34 PM

The Chinese knockoffs are more red than orange, that is your first clue they're not the "real" ones. Real redheads are orange, not red. The Chinese versions also are 800 watts maximum, while real Redheads are 1K. The ones I had back in the '80s were sold by Strand in the U.S. No more, apparently. This Desisti set at B&H LOOKS just like the real Redheads, but who knows for sure.

Sergiu Pavel · April 27th, 2008, 02:09 AM

The Chinese redhead is 800 watts max because is rated for European countries and here the standard for a redhead made by Ianiro or Desisti is 800 watts/220V. But the unit can also support a 1000W/110V bulb.

Maybe the bluehead's are the Arrilie from Arri which have a blue housing.

Personally I have in my arsenal some redheads made by Ianiro, Cosmolight and a Chinese version made by Cinelight Equipment and I have to say that this Chinese version have aprox the same output like those made by Cosmolight and Ianiro. The housing of Chinese light is made from metal, same as Cosmolight. Ianiro is made from fiberglass. The mechanism of the focus knob is same on all three lights, the differences is in the quality of the parts that reflects on smoothness in operation. The the leaf of barndoors of Cinelight lights are little bigger than others, but compatible in diameter with other.
Personally I find the quality of these lights pretty reasonable vs the paid price.

September 1st, 2007, 07:35 PM	#1
Juan Dela Cruz Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 83	what is Redhead and bluehead lights? I'm a little confused, whats the difference of the two?

September 1st, 2007, 07:56 PM	#2
Paul Izbicki Panoramic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 85	To me, a Redhead is a DeSisti open face quartz fixture. The term Bluehead is unknown to me, but I wonder if someone coined it to describe Arri, with their blue paint? __________________ Paul Izbicki i2inewMedia

September 1st, 2007, 10:02 PM	#3
Richard Andrewski Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shenzhen, China Posts: 781	Redheads were originally made by Strand but have had many copies as does every popular fixture. Never heard of blue head... __________________ Richard Andrewski - Cool Lights USA - RED #114 http://www.coollights.biz

September 29th, 2007, 02:39 PM	#7
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	The Redhead is a versatile unit which can also take the small J type 78mm linear bulbs, these are very cheap too! so you can go from 100w to 300w in 50w jumps in addition to the traditional 650,800,1000w sizes __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

October 25th, 2007, 04:24 AM	#8
Scott S. Thomas Tourist Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3	linky I believe you may be referring to Redheads and Blondes... Here is a link that describes different lighting types: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Movie_M...ing#Bulb_Types hope this helps. Scott.

September 5th, 2007, 08:07 PM	#5
David Garvin Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central, OH Posts: 207	And as Brian implies, but nobody's specifically stated, a RedHead is a 1k. I've been on shoots where Redhead is used in a generic sense to refer to any bowl-like 1k open faced light. I specify "bowl like" because I've never heard anybody refer to a Mickey as a RedHead, but just about any other 1k open face (no matter what the color) may sometimes be referred to as a Redhead even if, technically, it's not.

April 19th, 2008, 11:13 AM	#9
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Those Desist "redheads" look just like the "real" Ianiro Redheads. I wonder if they got a new U.S. importer: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Open_Face.html There are some Chinese "redheads" that you can immediately spot because they are much more red than orange. The "real" redheads are orange. Also, the Chinese version is 800 watts max.

April 24th, 2008, 06:08 PM	#10
John Hartney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Elgin, Illinois Posts: 206	ABC net used to issue a three light kit that consisted of 3 redheads. These were marketed by Strand. I too think they're the best open faced light out there. Very smooth and even light through out its range. My kit is patched mostly from lights I use, but I did start with the 3 light redhead kit, I've picked up two more since that long time ago and use them regularly. I'm also using divas, moles and I'm looking into leds. Buy what you'll use. I'm not much of a kit guy. I wouldn't trust the Chinese knock off red heads on ebay. These are HOT lights. __________________ John Hartney Elgin, Illinois USA 847.742.9321 Last edited by John Hartney; April 24th, 2008 at 08:31 PM.

April 24th, 2008, 07:34 PM	#11
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	The Chinese knockoffs are more red than orange, that is your first clue they're not the "real" ones. Real redheads are orange, not red. The Chinese versions also are 800 watts maximum, while real Redheads are 1K. The ones I had back in the '80s were sold by Strand in the U.S. No more, apparently. This Desisti set at B&H LOOKS just like the real Redheads, but who knows for sure.

April 27th, 2008, 02:09 AM	#12
Sergiu Pavel Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 119	The Chinese redhead is 800 watts max because is rated for European countries and here the standard for a redhead made by Ianiro or Desisti is 800 watts/220V. But the unit can also support a 1000W/110V bulb. Maybe the bluehead's are the Arrilie from Arri which have a blue housing. Personally I have in my arsenal some redheads made by Ianiro, Cosmolight and a Chinese version made by Cinelight Equipment and I have to say that this Chinese version have aprox the same output like those made by Cosmolight and Ianiro. The housing of Chinese light is made from metal, same as Cosmolight. Ianiro is made from fiberglass. The mechanism of the focus knob is same on all three lights, the differences is in the quality of the parts that reflects on smoothness in operation. The the leaf of barndoors of Cinelight lights are little bigger than others, but compatible in diameter with other. Personally I find the quality of these lights pretty reasonable vs the paid price.