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Steve Rosen · May 15th, 2007, 06:38 PM

I ordered the HPX with a Canon lens, and was just informed that the Canons are going to push delivery back nearly a month, which is very bad for me (I have a film starting mid-month)...

Does anyone here have an opinion on the quality of Fujinons? It's likely that I could get the camera at least 2-3 weeks earlier, but the only Fujinon I ever used was a super16 modification from Century.

Barry Green · May 15th, 2007, 07:35 PM

Lots of people actually prefer Fujinon glass. There's certainly advocates on both sides of the debate.

Would renting a lens make sense for your shoot? You can use any glass, so maybe an interim rental would be the best choice, rather than spending a lot of money on glass sight unseen?

Steve Rosen · May 15th, 2007, 07:50 PM

I thought of renting.. but it screws up my package deal - as you know, these days most of the (even old school reputable) outlets have to compete stylistically with box stores...

I think I'll try to go with the Fujinon - but one thing I like about the new Canons is that they've ergonomically redesigned the grip for people like me who handhold most of the time - what a concept!!!

Kaku Ito · May 17th, 2007, 10:22 AM

I realize looking at the HPX web content that both recommended Canon and Fujinon lense models are not listed at Canon nor Fujinon sites.

The content indicates that the HPX used conjunction with those supported lenses would manage to lessen the chromatic abberation.

So, that is why the delivery date is pushed behind? Because those lenses are all new models?

Steve Rosen · May 17th, 2007, 12:23 PM

Kaku: Yes, all new models designed especially to be compatable with the HPX, and to be affordable 2/3" lenses that work with Panasonic's (as yet to be seen) CAC...

I've opted, as I said, for the Fujinon, but would have preferred the Canon. The 3-4 week difference in wait time is critical for me right now because I gotta get this thing in my hands so I can shoot tests and adapt my thinking to the P2 work flow.

Kaku Ito · May 19th, 2007, 09:29 AM

Steve, do you know how much they are? Panasonic J don't list the prices.

Steve Rosen · May 19th, 2007, 02:27 PM

Kaku: They're package with the cameras, so no, I don't know what they would sell for seperately.. with the cameras they're about + or - $6,500, which is way cheap for a 2/3" lens... so I hope they're decent.

Kaku Ito · May 19th, 2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rosen

Kaku: They're package with the cameras, so no, I don't know what they would sell for seperately.. with the cameras they're about + or - $6,500, which is way cheap for a 2/3" lens... so I hope they're decent.

Steve,

General opinions from the pro shops are like cheap HD lenses won't be that good, but let's hope associated companies did their good job tunning in, especially the chromatic abberation.

Steve Rosen · May 19th, 2007, 06:57 PM

Cheap lenses aren't ever that good..

But, let's put this in perspective... If you wanted a good quality zoom lens for a 35mm still camera, you wouldn't expect to pay much more than $6,500... Why? Because they make a bunch of them, so they can amortise the cost over a lot of units and keep the price down..

Let's hope (hope being the operative word here) that is the philosophy being applied to these lenses which will be produced in great numbers, and designed to work with the new electronic wizardry of CAC tecnology..

Like I said, hope... Cuz I laid down cold hard cash for one...

Kaku Ito · June 5th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Steve,

I hope it works for all of us. But those special lenses are good enough then we can do regular shooting, then rent a real HD lens when we need, too.

It looks like I have to get that Fujinon lens for now.

May 15th, 2007, 06:38 PM	#1
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	500 lens choices I ordered the HPX with a Canon lens, and was just informed that the Canons are going to push delivery back nearly a month, which is very bad for me (I have a film starting mid-month)... Does anyone here have an opinion on the quality of Fujinons? It's likely that I could get the camera at least 2-3 weeks earlier, but the only Fujinon I ever used was a super16 modification from Century.

May 15th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#2
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Lots of people actually prefer Fujinon glass. There's certainly advocates on both sides of the debate. Would renting a lens make sense for your shoot? You can use any glass, so maybe an interim rental would be the best choice, rather than spending a lot of money on glass sight unseen?

May 15th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#3
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	I thought of renting.. but it screws up my package deal - as you know, these days most of the (even old school reputable) outlets have to compete stylistically with box stores... I think I'll try to go with the Fujinon - but one thing I like about the new Canons is that they've ergonomically redesigned the grip for people like me who handhold most of the time - what a concept!!!

May 17th, 2007, 10:22 AM	#4
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	I realize looking at the HPX web content that both recommended Canon and Fujinon lense models are not listed at Canon nor Fujinon sites. The content indicates that the HPX used conjunction with those supported lenses would manage to lessen the chromatic abberation. So, that is why the delivery date is pushed behind? Because those lenses are all new models?

May 17th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#5
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Kaku: Yes, all new models designed especially to be compatable with the HPX, and to be affordable 2/3" lenses that work with Panasonic's (as yet to be seen) CAC... I've opted, as I said, for the Fujinon, but would have preferred the Canon. The 3-4 week difference in wait time is critical for me right now because I gotta get this thing in my hands so I can shoot tests and adapt my thinking to the P2 work flow.

May 19th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#6
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Steve, do you know how much they are? Panasonic J don't list the prices.

May 19th, 2007, 02:27 PM	#7
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Kaku: They're package with the cameras, so no, I don't know what they would sell for seperately.. with the cameras they're about + or - $6,500, which is way cheap for a 2/3" lens... so I hope they're decent.

May 19th, 2007, 06:57 PM	#9
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Cheap lenses aren't ever that good.. But, let's put this in perspective... If you wanted a good quality zoom lens for a 35mm still camera, you wouldn't expect to pay much more than $6,500... Why? Because they make a bunch of them, so they can amortise the cost over a lot of units and keep the price down.. Let's hope (hope being the operative word here) that is the philosophy being applied to these lenses which will be produced in great numbers, and designed to work with the new electronic wizardry of CAC tecnology.. Like I said, hope... Cuz I laid down cold hard cash for one...

June 5th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#10
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Steve, I hope it works for all of us. But those special lenses are good enough then we can do regular shooting, then rent a real HD lens when we need, too. It looks like I have to get that Fujinon lens for now.