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Paul Whishaw · July 21st, 2006, 11:35 AM

I have been traveling around shooting HVX200 footage for a show that will air on TV. I've been shooting at 30PN in the video camera mode with most setting pretty much left alone (as in knee and all that jazz). The other day another DP was shooting a portion of the intro to the show and he decided to shoot 24PN. He asked why I was shooting 30PN, I said cause it's a sports show (fighting) and that it's for TV, not film. So he shot 24PN (thanks for asking anyway) to get a "different look".

Questions: How difficult will it be to mix in 24P footage with 30P footage.

2: If I'm shooting 30PN in Film Cam mode, what kind of different looks will I get by using the CINELIKE V and D functions over normal?

3: Are there any sites posting clips or still of different looks?

Probably got a ton more question but I just flew from Vancouver to Russia and I'm shagged.

Thanks in advance.

Jon Fairhurst · July 21st, 2006, 02:38 PM

Just a guess, but if 24p is shot with a fast shutter, you'll get a combination of strobe (shutter) and judder (repeated frames in 3:2 pull down for 24->60), which could give a brutal, jarring result.

Just the other night I was watching an engrossing, intense boxing documentary on ESPN2, and they used this style extensively. Actually, I think they sped up the 24 to 30. The action looked superhumanly fast.

July 21st, 2006, 11:35 AM	#1
Paul Whishaw New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 21	Mixing frame rates, Film vs Video, and more... I have been traveling around shooting HVX200 footage for a show that will air on TV. I've been shooting at 30PN in the video camera mode with most setting pretty much left alone (as in knee and all that jazz). The other day another DP was shooting a portion of the intro to the show and he decided to shoot 24PN. He asked why I was shooting 30PN, I said cause it's a sports show (fighting) and that it's for TV, not film. So he shot 24PN (thanks for asking anyway) to get a "different look". Questions: How difficult will it be to mix in 24P footage with 30P footage. 2: If I'm shooting 30PN in Film Cam mode, what kind of different looks will I get by using the CINELIKE V and D functions over normal? 3: Are there any sites posting clips or still of different looks? Probably got a ton more question but I just flew from Vancouver to Russia and I'm shagged. Thanks in advance.

July 21st, 2006, 02:38 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Just a guess, but if 24p is shot with a fast shutter, you'll get a combination of strobe (shutter) and judder (repeated frames in 3:2 pull down for 24->60), which could give a brutal, jarring result. Just the other night I was watching an engrossing, intense boxing documentary on ESPN2, and they used this style extensively. Actually, I think they sped up the 24 to 30. The action looked superhumanly fast. __________________ Jon Fairhurst