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May 6th, 2006, 05:43 PM | #1 |
Barry Wan Kenobi
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HVX - 2fps - Las Vegas Strip
I don't see a lot of talk on DVInfo about the other variable frame rates in the HVX (for those who don't know, we've unlocked some hidden frame rates and have basically tripled the number of frame rates the camera can support). My favorite of these is 2 frames per second for the hyper-speed effect.
For fun I strapped the HVX200 on the roof of my vehicle and went barrelling down the freeway and then down the Las Vegas Strip. I set the camera in the special two-frames-per-second mode with the shutter at 350 degrees to get some nice high-speed blur effects. At one point I had to adjust exposure, because the strip hotels were super-bright; it wasn't all that easy; had to hop out of the truck while stopped at a stoplight and clamber up on the roof to spin the iris wheel... must have looked a bit curious to all the other drivers. :) http://hvx200.moctel.com/Users/Barry...Strip-2fps.mov Right-click and save-as... |
May 6th, 2006, 06:10 PM | #2 |
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That's pretty damn cool. Good musical choice too. :)
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May 6th, 2006, 07:36 PM | #3 |
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HEY!!!!! That was a m a i z i n g .........
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May 6th, 2006, 07:37 PM | #4 |
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Kick ass Barry....
Was that secured to your roof via the stickypod? |
May 6th, 2006, 09:53 PM | #6 |
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Are there also hidden shutter speeds? I would like to see slow shutter down to 1/4 sec.
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May 6th, 2006, 10:58 PM | #7 | |
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May 6th, 2006, 11:04 PM | #8 | |
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Every HVX ever manufactured has those additional frame rates available, waiting to be tapped into. The total frame rates available are: 2,3,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,23,24,26,27,28,30, 32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,52,54,56,58, and 60 frames per second. The thing is, Panasonic only had time and resources to certify and verify so many frame rates to make their shipping date. These other frame rates are, therefore, not certified. If you want to use them, you do so at your own risk. I don't know what ill effects they may cause; the only thing I've noticed is that I've had three "P2 Micon Error" messages come up when using some of these frame rates, so presumably that comes from them being untested. I would also expect that as Panasonic has more time to certify and test them and verify that they're solid, then as time goes on they could release firmware updates that "unlock" more of these frame rates and make them officially available in the menus. So: if you're comfortable with making your camera perform outside of its certified/warranteed parameters, you can access these frame rates, but you have to accept any risk that comes from doing so. If you're not comfortable stepping outside the certified/warranteed parameters, read no further! -------------------------------------------- Here's the procedure: 1) Get a scene file text file on an SD card, usually by going into menu 8, CARD FUNCTIONS, and saving scene files to your SD card. 2) Open the scene file text file in the PRIVATE\MEIGROUP\PAVCN\SBG\P2SD directory, called SCENE1.TXT (or scene2.txt, scene3.txt, or scene4.txt) using a text editor like Windows Notepad 3) Look for the next-to-last item in the scene file. Here's what a sample scene file text file looks like: 00005000: 8 ; DETAIL LEVEL: 0 00005001: 8 ; V DETAIL LEVEL: 0 00005002: 8 ; DETAIL CORING : 0 00005003: 8 ; CHROMA LEVEL: 0 00005004: 8 ; CHROMA PHASE: 0 00005005: 8 ; COLOR TEMP: 0 00005006: 16 ; MASTER PED: 0 00005007: 8 ; A.IRIS LEVEL: 0 00005008: 1 ; NEWS GAMMA: OFF 00005009: 0 ; GAMMA : HD NORM 0000500A: 0 ; KNEE: AUTO 0000500B: 0 ; MATRIX: NORM 0000500C: 1 ; SKIN TONE DTL : OFF 0000500D: 0 ; V DETAIL FREQ : THIN 0000500E: 0 ; OPERATION TYPE: VIDEO CAM 0000500F: 0 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT 00005010: BE026801 ; SYNCRO SCAN : That next-to-last item is: 0000500F: 0 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT You can ignore everything after the semicolon; the semicolon indicates that it's a "comment" and will have no bearing on anything else (so, in this example, the part that says "; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT " is useless, it affects nothing, it's just there for human-readable description). So the relevant part is: 0000500F: 0 The only thing you would want to change is that last number (in this case, "0"). To get different frame rates, use one of the following numbers: 0 = DEFAULT 1 = 2fps 2 = 3fps 3 =4fps 4 = 6fps 5 = 8fps 6 = 10fps 7 = 12fps 8 = 14fps 9 = 16fps 10 = 18fps 11 = 20fps 12 = 22fps 13 = 23fps 14 = 24fps 16 = 26fps 17 = 27fps 18 = 28fps 19 = 30fps 20 = 32fps 21 = 34fps 22 = 36fps 23 = 38fps 24 = 40fps 25 = 42fps 26 = 44fps 27 = 46fps 28 = 48fps 29 = 50fps 30 = 52fps 32 = 54fps 33 = 56fps 34 = 58fps 35 = 60fps 36+ = repeat of sequence from 50fps to 60fps So, for example, if you wanted to get a frame rate of 2 FPS, your modified line would look like this: 0000500F: 1 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT And if you wanted 44 fps, it would look like this: 0000500F: 26 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT (don't try higher than 35; I tried 36 and it set it to 50fps, 37 set it to 52, so I think it just repeats 50-60 for all fields set higher than 36) 4) Save your modified text file back onto your SD card 5) Put the SD card back in the camera, go to CARD FUNCTIONS, and read the scene files into the camera. Now, when you go to the appropriate scene file, you'll see the new frame rate there. But be aware, the only way to assign these "nonstandard" frame rates is through the SD card. If you use the menu to try to change the frame rate, you'll lose it -- it'll immediately jump to 60, and then only allow the normal rates to be selected. You'd have to re-load the scene file from the SD card in order to re-establish your "nonstandard" frame rate. |
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But as far as a shutter speed in the menu saying "1/4", nobody's figured out how to do that yet, if it's even possible. |
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May 7th, 2006, 04:59 AM | #10 | |
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May 7th, 2006, 06:41 AM | #11 |
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WOW... that looks absolutely amazing.. im very impressed with the low light performance of the unit as well... i didnt see much noize and what i could see is acceptable for my needs as a producer.. BUT...
from all the nigglies and the way the HVX has been progressing so far, im still considering waiting for an updated firmware or even better, an updated unit.. it really wouldnt surprise me if the next HVX is native MP4, as the 100a is considerably improved over the 100.. so this sort of trend "update behaviour" from panasonic is well known and proven, but of course MP4 on a HVX is a big speculation which i dont want to go into. For what i do though, HD is not a necessity but these in cam facilities would be perfect for what i do... its a tough one, but i think im going to wait until the quirks of the unit are ironed out and/or the firmware is tweaked a bit.. |
May 7th, 2006, 07:45 AM | #12 |
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Pretty neat, Barry! Reminds me of NAB. What time was that? About midnight?
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May 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM | #13 |
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Nice work Barry. That was the most fun I've had stuck in traffic on the strip. :)
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May 7th, 2006, 12:10 PM | #14 |
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Barry, I don't want to speed up motion, just get the slow shutter effect that is so popular with the Sony cameras. Speed still remains normal. Clients ask for it.
I wonder if you could take the effect you're using. Say at 4fps or 8fps then in post slow the shot down to stretch it out to normal speed? |
May 7th, 2006, 01:04 PM | #15 |
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On your frame rate lists Barry there is a glaring omission of 15 : 25fps - does it not exist or is it blocked for any technical or political reason do you know? Is there a similar omission with the PAL camera?
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