HVX-200 Blue Screen Test Footage

Cassidy Bisher · April 6th, 2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cemil Giray

I just showed the clip to our keying specialist who basically spends hours shooting key every day. It took at least 60-seconds for him to turn around and look at me with a grin saying "you got me, it's a key job." For sixty seconds he had not realised it. Then I told him it was an HVX and not a Varicam and without a beat turned around, popped open his Firefox and logged into B&H. Geez, I wonder why.

That's funny, and you know what? This was with an old blue screen with wrinkles, if we had put a lot of time into it and used a pro matte green screen i bet the results would have been awesome...

Steev Dinkins · April 6th, 2006, 01:14 PM

Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)

Cassidy Bisher · April 6th, 2006, 02:28 PM

Thanks Steve...

I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet.

The room we were in was about 800 square feet.

a 1k soft bank was on from the right side, and a kicker in the back for hair light, then we lit the blue screen with one 650 Fresnel and two 300 frenels.

i think that was it...

I may be missing something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steev Dinkins

Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)

Bill Schoaf · April 6th, 2006, 02:30 PM

Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?

Cassidy Bisher · April 6th, 2006, 02:31 PM

Thanks Bill, It was Maya...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Schoaf

Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?

Bill Schoaf · April 6th, 2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy Bisher

Thanks Bill, It was Maya...

Outstanding Cassidy. That must of taken some time.

Steev Dinkins · April 6th, 2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy Bisher

I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet. The room we were in was about 800 square feet.

Thanks for that info. That definitely supports what I've been saying. I believe it's time to look for a studio to rent time in. But on shoots that already have secured large locations, I'll be givin the green screen a workout, and see what's possible.

Inspiring work, Cassidy!!

Sergio Perez · April 6th, 2006, 10:02 PM

Thanks, Cassidy, for your inspiring work. In a moment I was starting to hesitate about buying the HVX, with the announcement of the new Shootout, but seeing your work was reassuring. There are strenghts this camera offers that no other in the pricerange can achieve (the variable frame rates and 4:2:2 are the major catch, for me).

Seeing this type of results can be achieved makes me confident on the camera purchase. If I cannot do things of similar quality, than it is ME who is not up to par, and not the equipment.

I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?

Cassidy Bisher · April 7th, 2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergio Perez

I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?

Yea, this camera helps to express yourself giving you freedom to create within streamlined and challenging budgets, it's where the HVX excels... When we set up our green screen I'll make sure to shoot in the 1080p mode.

Jeremy Snyder · April 7th, 2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy Bisher

Well we used Foundry's Keylight in After Effects.
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_over...F-32EC2C19A715

You may or may not be interested in the emotional roller coaster I just experienced in the last two minutes. When I saw your footage I was excited about the possibilities that I realized are open to me with my new HVX200. Then I clicked on the link you provided, and I was disappointed to find out it costs $2,500; of course it's easy to achieve great keys like this when you can afford high end software. Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!

I really don't have much of a point, except that I'm looking forward to using the HVX200+AE to push my footage beyond what I was able to do in the DV realm and I appreciate you demonstrating the possibilities.

--Jeremy

Darrell Essex · April 7th, 2006, 09:02 AM

keylight comes with after effects pro.
it's a lot less than $2,500.
Darrell
FIRST CINEMA PICTURES

Tom Duncan · April 7th, 2006, 09:35 AM

The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

td

Zack Birlew · April 7th, 2006, 09:46 AM

$2,500? Well that's not too bad for the results it gives. You could very well buy Shake for about the same price. Still, if it works, it works, ya know? =)

Jeremy Snyder · April 7th, 2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell Essex

keylight comes with after effects pro.

Darrell, I see my story was not exciting enough to keep you reading through the third act:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Snyder

Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!

:-)

--Jeremy

Cassidy Bisher · April 8th, 2006, 07:05 AM

Yes, there is a way around that, I could have created a matte for the glass, and keyed that seperately, put a garbage matte around it and only be concerned about the girl and her hair... then I would go back and key out the blue of the glass on a seperate layer... so it would be attainable. This was a really quick key, I had a lot of work to do that day.

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Duncan

The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

td

April 6th, 2006, 01:14 PM	#17
Steev Dinkins Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 613	Awesome!!! Outstanding work. I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :) __________________ www.holyzoo.com

April 6th, 2006, 10:02 PM	#23
Sergio Perez Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Macau Posts: 331	Thanks, Cassidy, for your inspiring work. In a moment I was starting to hesitate about buying the HVX, with the announcement of the new Shootout, but seeing your work was reassuring. There are strenghts this camera offers that no other in the pricerange can achieve (the variable frame rates and 4:2:2 are the major catch, for me). Seeing this type of results can be achieved makes me confident on the camera purchase. If I cannot do things of similar quality, than it is ME who is not up to par, and not the equipment. I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job! EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well? __________________ If you don't believe in your film, no one else will. Last edited by Sergio Perez; April 7th, 2006 at 02:11 AM.

April 7th, 2006, 09:02 AM	#26
Darrell Essex Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: kelseyville, ca Posts: 123	keylight comes with after effects pro. it's a lot less than $2,500. Darrell FIRST CINEMA PICTURES __________________ darrell

April 7th, 2006, 09:46 AM	#28
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	$2,500? Well that's not too bad for the results it gives. You could very well buy Shake for about the same price. Still, if it works, it works, ya know? =) __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

April 6th, 2006, 02:30 PM	#19
Bill Schoaf Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 49	Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff. I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?

April 7th, 2006, 09:35 AM	#27
Tom Duncan New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: cali Posts: 9	The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself. td