Samsung's Possible P2 alternative? at DVinfo.net

John M Burkhart · March 22nd, 2006, 01:18 AM

Samsung just announced a 32GB flash (RAM) disk drive:

read speed 57MB/s
write speed 32MB/s

expect to sell for between $700 and $1000

Samsung claims it uses just 5% of the power (.1 watt idle, .5watt under load) of a notebook drive, so battery life would be impressive.

To be released "soon"

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/21/32gb_ssd_samsung/

Shane Ross · March 22nd, 2006, 03:52 AM

Doubtful. I highly doubt that it is capable of capturing and storing DVCPRO HD footage. It is nothing more than a large FLASH hard drive.

P2s are 4 flash cards "raided" together in a unique fashion.

You can try, but my guess from reading that article, it ain't gonna cut it.

John Kang · March 22nd, 2006, 06:02 AM

The drive supposedly reads and writes at 57MBs and 32MBs. If true, it's should be enough for HDV.

It just shows that prices should drop with increase in technology that makes it easier to develop cheaper cards with more memory than what you have now.

I'm just wondering if the HVX has a limit on memory usuage. Ex: My Gateway brand 5MP digital camera that I purchased when it first came out uses SD cards. It says it can't handle more than 512MBs, so all the new 1gig SD cards out, I can't use.

Philip Williams · March 22nd, 2006, 06:28 AM

Well, if those write speeds in the article are even close to accurate, then these drives could easily handle DVCPROHD.

I doubt we'll see Panasonic implement something like this though. They seem to have their minds made up about P2 and its SD card configuration.

Now a company like Spec-Comm, that's jumped through the hoops of basically reverse engineering the P2 architecture.. well that's a different story. Obviously a third party with a grasp of the P2 interface could theoretically make something like this work.

I bet if someone like Spec-Comm bundles that flash drive into a P2 compatable device, they'd sell like hot cakes for $1500. That's 80 minutes of 720P/24. Heck, even half an hour of 1080i is pretty respectable.

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David Linetsky · March 22nd, 2006, 10:46 AM

We are looking forward to making solid state drives an option for the CinePorter™. There are many issues to overcome other than the data dates, such as formatting options, how they handle memory fragmentation internally and so on. We'll have to see when we get our hands on these.

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Philip Williams · March 22nd, 2006, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Linetsky

<snip>We'll have to see when we get our hands on these. <snip>

Thanks for the update David, good to know you're looking at additional options as they become available.

Ash Greyson · March 22nd, 2006, 12:41 PM

Judging by the size and the price... I would guess it is 4 raided 8gb smaller cards. For many workflows, destructive media just is not the way to go... not until it is near the cost of tape.

ash =o)

March 22nd, 2006, 01:18 AM	#1
John M Burkhart Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 97	Samsung's Possible P2 alternative? Samsung just announced a 32GB flash (RAM) disk drive: read speed 57MB/s write speed 32MB/s expect to sell for between $700 and $1000 Samsung claims it uses just 5% of the power (.1 watt idle, .5watt under load) of a notebook drive, so battery life would be impressive. To be released "soon" http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/21/32gb_ssd_samsung/ __________________ John Burkhart http://mynahmedia.com

March 22nd, 2006, 03:52 AM	#2
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	Doubtful. I highly doubt that it is capable of capturing and storing DVCPRO HD footage. It is nothing more than a large FLASH hard drive. P2s are 4 flash cards "raided" together in a unique fashion. You can try, but my guess from reading that article, it ain't gonna cut it.

March 22nd, 2006, 06:02 AM	#3
John Kang Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 219	The drive supposedly reads and writes at 57MBs and 32MBs. If true, it's should be enough for HDV. It just shows that prices should drop with increase in technology that makes it easier to develop cheaper cards with more memory than what you have now. I'm just wondering if the HVX has a limit on memory usuage. Ex: My Gateway brand 5MP digital camera that I purchased when it first came out uses SD cards. It says it can't handle more than 512MBs, so all the new 1gig SD cards out, I can't use.

March 22nd, 2006, 06:28 AM	#4
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	Well, if those write speeds in the article are even close to accurate, then these drives could easily handle DVCPROHD. I doubt we'll see Panasonic implement something like this though. They seem to have their minds made up about P2 and its SD card configuration. Now a company like Spec-Comm, that's jumped through the hoops of basically reverse engineering the P2 architecture.. well that's a different story. Obviously a third party with a grasp of the P2 interface could theoretically make something like this work. I bet if someone like Spec-Comm bundles that flash drive into a P2 compatable device, they'd sell like hot cakes for $1500. That's 80 minutes of 720P/24. Heck, even half an hour of 1080i is pretty respectable. www.philipwilliams.com

March 22nd, 2006, 10:46 AM	#5
David Linetsky Specialized Communications Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 45	We are looking forward to making solid state drives an option for the CinePorter™. There are many issues to overcome other than the data dates, such as formatting options, how they handle memory fragmentation internally and so on. We'll have to see when we get our hands on these. David Linetsky President Specialized Communications Corp. 20940 Twin Springs Drive Smithsburg, MD 21783-1510 USA 800-359-1858 301-790-0103 Fax: 301-790-0173 davidl@spec-comm.com www.spec-comm.com ************************************************************************ Now taking Pre-Orders on the Panasonic AG-HVX200 HD Camcorder. Reserve today, and receive FREE Shipping and a FREE cleaning for your new camera. Visit http://www.spec-comm.com/hvx200.php for details!

March 22nd, 2006, 12:41 PM	#7
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Judging by the size and the price... I would guess it is 4 raided 8gb smaller cards. For many workflows, destructive media just is not the way to go... not until it is near the cost of tape. ash =o)