Kaku's HVX200 clips for downloading (Mac)

Barry Green · January 2nd, 2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaku Ito

and what do you suggest the V detail to be?

Unfortunately that's one parameter that's not working on my prerelease HVX, so I can't advise you as I haven't seen it in action. I can say that on the DVX it was a pretty minor effect, there wasn't a tremendous amount of difference between minimum and maximum. If the HVX is similar, then it shouldn't matter too much where you set it.

The thing is, DETAIL LVL adds electronic sharpening (white halos around black edges, etc) and V_DETAIL_LVL doesn't; it adjusts the contrast between lines, but doesn't actually paint in new lines. So it's nowhere near as important a setting as DETAIL LVL is.

Kaku Ito · January 2nd, 2006, 03:06 AM

Thanks Barry,

I'm posting some DVCPRO50 files as MXF files (wether these file alone would work of Windows users, I don't know) in details being zero and negative five, neews gamma on and off, 60i and 24p, room light on and off.

I hope this helps for PC users.

Leigh Wanstead · January 2nd, 2006, 02:14 PM

Hi Kaku,

I am not sure if someone else suggested before, why not wmv format?

TIA

Regards
Leigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito

Thanks Barry,

I'm posting some DVCPRO50 files as MXF files (wether these file alone would work of Windows users, I don't know) in details being zero and negative five, neews gamma on and off, 60i and 24p, room light on and off.

I hope this helps for PC users.

Barry Green · January 2nd, 2006, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito

Thanks Barry,

I'm posting some DVCPRO50 files as MXF files (wether these file alone would work of Windows users, I don't know) in details being zero and negative five, neews gamma on and off, 60i and 24p, room light on and off.

I hope this helps for PC users.

From what I understand, Pinnacle Liquid users should be able to import those files directly and then export .WMV files for those who don't have MXF-aware editing programs.

Kaku Ito · January 2nd, 2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leigh Wanstead

Hi Kaku,

I am not sure if someone else suggested before, why not wmv format?

TIA

Regards
Leigh

I simply don't have knowledge in transcode the video to wmv (my work has been concentrated in Mac platform) and it's going to be too much time for me to transcode to unfamilier codec. As it is now, I'm putting other obligations on the side and doing this. My goal here is to provide my clips as raw as possible. Hoping that we find someone that contineously provide conversions to wmv files at reasonable quality and do that part from us.

It's waaay too much work. Lucky it was new years vacation in Japan.

Steven Thomas · January 2nd, 2006, 05:31 PM

I understand Kaku.
You've been VERY helpful !

Thanks for posting the HVX files.
They are VERY helpful for all of us.

I'm looking forward to the HVX.

thxs,Steve

Craig Seeman · January 2nd, 2006, 09:39 PM

I have Telestream Flip4Mac so I can encode WMVHD. I did a couple of tests and unfortunately I can see the compression even at 4Mbps. I can do it but it doesn't show the camera at its best.

Leigh Wanstead · January 2nd, 2006, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I have Telestream Flip4Mac so I can encode WMVHD. I did a couple of tests and unfortunately I can see the compression even at 4Mbps. I can do it but it doesn't show the camera at its best.

Hi Craig,

That is fine. It is better than nothing. I look forward to it.

TIA

Regards
Leigh

Les Dit · January 3rd, 2006, 01:09 AM

Right on.
So just encode it at 12 Mbps , like other HD sized footage is encoded.
Problem solved.
-Les

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I have Telestream Flip4Mac so I can encode WMVHD. I did a couple of tests and unfortunately I can see the compression even at 4Mbps. I can do it but it doesn't show the camera at its best.

Kaku Ito · January 3rd, 2006, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I have Telestream Flip4Mac so I can encode WMVHD. I did a couple of tests and unfortunately I can see the compression even at 4Mbps. I can do it but it doesn't show the camera at its best.

Craig,

Just cut my clips short and convert it with say, 20mbps which si D-VHS quality or digital broadcast quality, so people can see how these files look like on such situation.

Being responsible like how you mentioned, down to 4Mbps and show the compression, is the right kind of attitude towards such work.

Cassidy Bisher · January 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM

how do i get the 60p clip (yugoceltap60p.mov) to act as over cranked? do i use cinema tools? right now it's just 60 frames a second, it's not slow motion...

Cassidy Bisher · January 4th, 2006, 12:35 PM

ok i figured it out... just had to reverse telecine the footage and convert it to 23.98.... it looks awesome. Slow Motion... finally no stupid frame blending... I would like to see 60p with a high shutter speed now... with no motion blur...

Cassidy Bisher · January 4th, 2006, 01:32 PM

Was this footage shot with the cinewave gamma curve? It doesn't look film like. My canon xl2 produces better flesh tones than this. Maybe I was waiting for a varicam type image.. but 1/3 chip CCD, well what do i expect...

Cassidy Bisher · January 4th, 2006, 01:47 PM

I would really love to see so 60p footage with a HIGH shutter speed, actually the fastest if you can... glass breaking or something dramatic? Watching 60p footage with motion blur is something you don't see a lot of... the goal of slow motion footage is detail on every frame. I would have to see this footage if I was ever to buy this camera. Because right now I am not impressed.

Barry Green · January 4th, 2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy Bisher

I would really love to see so 60p footage with a HIGH shutter speed, actually the fastest if you can...

60p with about a 1/1000 shutter speed:
http://www.dvxuser3.com/glass/Glass.Xwmv
http://www.dvxuser3.com/glass/Glass.Xmp4

(obviously when you download the files, remove the "X" after the period so they become glass.wmv or glass.mp4)

January 4th, 2006, 01:47 PM	#104
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	I would really love to see so 60p footage with a HIGH shutter speed, actually the fastest if you can... glass breaking or something dramatic? Watching 60p footage with motion blur is something you don't see a lot of... the goal of slow motion footage is detail on every frame. I would have to see this footage if I was ever to buy this camera. Because right now I am not impressed. Last edited by Cassidy Bisher; January 4th, 2006 at 02:19 PM.

January 2nd, 2006, 03:06 AM	#92
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Thanks Barry, I'm posting some DVCPRO50 files as MXF files (wether these file alone would work of Windows users, I don't know) in details being zero and negative five, neews gamma on and off, 60i and 24p, room light on and off. I hope this helps for PC users.

January 2nd, 2006, 05:31 PM	#96
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	I understand Kaku. You've been VERY helpful ! Thanks for posting the HVX files. They are VERY helpful for all of us. I'm looking forward to the HVX. thxs,Steve

January 2nd, 2006, 09:39 PM	#97
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	I have Telestream Flip4Mac so I can encode WMVHD. I did a couple of tests and unfortunately I can see the compression even at 4Mbps. I can do it but it doesn't show the camera at its best.

January 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM	#101
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	how do i get the 60p clip (yugoceltap60p.mov) to act as over cranked? do i use cinema tools? right now it's just 60 frames a second, it's not slow motion...

January 4th, 2006, 12:35 PM	#102
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	ok i figured it out... just had to reverse telecine the footage and convert it to 23.98.... it looks awesome. Slow Motion... finally no stupid frame blending... I would like to see 60p with a high shutter speed now... with no motion blur...

January 4th, 2006, 01:32 PM	#103
Cassidy Bisher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 198	Was this footage shot with the cinewave gamma curve? It doesn't look film like. My canon xl2 produces better flesh tones than this. Maybe I was waiting for a varicam type image.. but 1/3 chip CCD, well what do i expect...