Best editing platform for HVX?

Randy Donato · December 14th, 2005, 03:02 PM

There is a lot out there on DVCPro HD and the pros and cons....it is a great editing format and far supieror to .m2t(HDV) as an aqusition format but the biggest drawback is the luma sampling is 1280...HDCAM and Canopus HQ are both 1440 but the trade off is DVCPro is 100Mbps and HDCAM is 140Mbps with HQ averaging close to 120-140 since it is variable. HQ does give you Chroma sub-sampling at 720....DVCPro is 640 and HDCAM is 480. You do need a horse of a macine to edit HQ(which is also intraframe) and you have to convert so it is all about trade-offs. Bottom line IMHO to be able to aquire DVCPRO HD for 10k with P2s or Firestores is incredible and a big step in the right direction for people who can't afford Varicam...nobody I know can.

John Hewat · January 2nd, 2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Green

Rumors abound that Premiere Pro 2.0 will have support. Haven't heard any encouraging rumors about Vegas yet.

Really? Do we know when to expect Premiere Pro 2?

I am in the position of really, really wanting that camera but not wanting to purchase a whole new editing platform with which to make use of it...

Hans ter Lingen · January 2nd, 2006, 02:31 PM

Barry can you comment on this???

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Originally Posted by Ash Greyson

I am a PC and MAC guy who just did a feature doc in premiere pro... I just upgraded to a Quad G5 FCP system, it is just more solid and standard for HD and the industry in general. Not better... just more standard.

Barry, those numbers cannot be correct... On a quad G5 with a FIBRE RAID, I can get MAX 6-8 streams in 720/24p... most the time I get 4-6 with 1080/60. When using a LaCie serial raid we got 3-5 streams MAX. That is all numbers for DVCproHD which is 8-bit. The key seems to be HDD speed, moreso than processor speed.

ash =o)

Barry Green · January 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by John Hewat

Really? Do we know when to expect Premiere Pro 2?

Nobody who actually knows anything is talking, so it's all just rumor and speculation. Premiere Pro 1.5 was introduced almost two years ago at NAB (or shortly thereafter) in April 2004, so it would seem that expecting an update at NAB this year wouldn't be out of line. But that is absolute 100% unsubstantiated speculation.

Barry Green · January 2nd, 2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hans ter Lingen

Barry can you comment on this???

I am reporting what I (believe I) heard from the Apple rep at DV Expo. Obviously I could have gotten it wrong, but I am almost 100% sure that I heard six streams on a powerbook, 11 streams on a desktop. Maybe the bit about six streams "on the internal drive" is crazy, maybe it was referring to external storage, I don't know.

I am not (yet) a Mac user, so I don't have anything to add to this, I'm just relaying what I was told at the Apple demo at DV Expo.

December 14th, 2005, 03:02 PM	#61
Randy Donato Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 138	There is a lot out there on DVCPro HD and the pros and cons....it is a great editing format and far supieror to .m2t(HDV) as an aqusition format but the biggest drawback is the luma sampling is 1280...HDCAM and Canopus HQ are both 1440 but the trade off is DVCPro is 100Mbps and HDCAM is 140Mbps with HQ averaging close to 120-140 since it is variable. HQ does give you Chroma sub-sampling at 720....DVCPro is 640 and HDCAM is 480. You do need a horse of a macine to edit HQ(which is also intraframe) and you have to convert so it is all about trade-offs. Bottom line IMHO to be able to aquire DVCPRO HD for 10k with P2s or Firestores is incredible and a big step in the right direction for people who can't afford Varicam...nobody I know can.