2/3" DVCProHD P2 Camera? at DVinfo.net

Kenn Christenson · October 26th, 2005, 11:21 AM

I showed the HVX200 DVD to my boss and, wouldn't you know it, he's asking me about the higher end P2 HD camera mentioned on the disk "coming in 2006."

Anyone have a "guesstimate" on how much this camera might be (minus the HD lens, of course?) I know the lowest end 2/3" P2 camera is listing for close to $13,000.

Chris Hurd · October 26th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Yes indeed, it's a full-size shoulder-mount recording DVCPRO HD on P2 and I believe I saw the mock-up at NAB. Will try to get the model number and appx. price for you.

Danilo Del Tufo · October 27th, 2005, 04:27 AM

Hello, i think it's "AJ-HDX400E" model, p2+2/3"ccd+1080p
The price is 48000,00 euros!!! T_T
I hope that the model that you're talking about coming out for the price that you've mentioned!

Cheers!

Danilo Del Tufo · October 27th, 2005, 04:32 AM

My mistake: It doesn't have P2 CARD SLOT! But if you add this feature perhaps you will pay 60.000,00 euros?! T_T
Damned DoF! :)

Marty Baggen · October 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM

If it is an HD P2 machine, wouldn't that make the price come down....as opposed to installing the elaborate tape head system required for DVCProHD?

That was the essential design decision that allowed for the HVX200.

Lawrence Bansbach · October 27th, 2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danilo Del Tufo

Hello, i think it's "AJ-HDX400E" model, p2+2/3"ccd+1080p

I don't think it's the AJ-HDX400/400e. That records on a DVCPro tape, and it doesn't support all the formats and frame rates that the HVX200 will. With any luck the new camera will support D5-HD (in addition to DVCPro HD), which can do 720p, 1080i, and 1080p with 10-bit, 4:2:2 color using 5:1 compression. Bad news: 250-Mbps data rate. But P2 should be able to handle it.

Kenn Christenson · October 27th, 2005, 10:22 AM

I've actually shot with the HDX400 and it's definately not the P2 camera mentioned in the DVD.

Barry Green · October 27th, 2005, 12:32 PM

Right. The HDX400 is a 1080i-only 2/3" tape-based camera.

The one hinted at in the DVD is widely speculated to be the P2-based replacement for the VariCam. I don't think anything official has ever been announced as far as details, but we're all pretty much expecting 720p and 1080i and 1080p, 2/3" CCDs, interchangeable lenses, multiple P2 slots, etc. Now, where things get fun is that at NAB, IINM, they had a badge on the side of it that said "HD-D5".

Jaime Valles · October 27th, 2005, 09:58 PM

Just curious... What are the details of the HD-D5 format? How does it compare to DVCProHD?

I would imagine that a P2 only Varicam 2 would be cheaper than the current Varicam, precisely because it won't have the expensive tape transport. Can you imagine 2/3" 1080/24p 4:2:2 HD for less than $30K*!!!

*This $$$ figure is a complete and total guess, and is not based on any official information whatsoever.

October 26th, 2005, 11:21 AM	#1
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	2/3" DVCProHD P2 Camera? I showed the HVX200 DVD to my boss and, wouldn't you know it, he's asking me about the higher end P2 HD camera mentioned on the disk "coming in 2006." Anyone have a "guesstimate" on how much this camera might be (minus the HD lens, of course?) I know the lowest end 2/3" P2 camera is listing for close to $13,000.

October 26th, 2005, 11:39 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Yes indeed, it's a full-size shoulder-mount recording DVCPRO HD on P2 and I believe I saw the mock-up at NAB. Will try to get the model number and appx. price for you. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 27th, 2005, 04:27 AM	#3
Danilo Del Tufo New Boot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Naples (Italy) Posts: 104	Aj-hdx400e Hello, i think it's "AJ-HDX400E" model, p2+2/3"ccd+1080p The price is 48000,00 euros!!! T_T I hope that the model that you're talking about coming out for the price that you've mentioned! Cheers!

October 27th, 2005, 04:32 AM	#4
Danilo Del Tufo New Boot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Naples (Italy) Posts: 104	"aj-hdx400e My mistake: It doesn't have P2 CARD SLOT! But if you add this feature perhaps you will pay 60.000,00 euros?! T_T Damned DoF! :)

October 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM	#5
Marty Baggen Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: monroe, or Posts: 572	If it is an HD P2 machine, wouldn't that make the price come down....as opposed to installing the elaborate tape head system required for DVCProHD? That was the essential design decision that allowed for the HVX200.

October 27th, 2005, 10:22 AM	#7
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	I've actually shot with the HDX400 and it's definately not the P2 camera mentioned in the DVD.

October 27th, 2005, 12:32 PM	#8
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Right. The HDX400 is a 1080i-only 2/3" tape-based camera. The one hinted at in the DVD is widely speculated to be the P2-based replacement for the VariCam. I don't think anything official has ever been announced as far as details, but we're all pretty much expecting 720p and 1080i and 1080p, 2/3" CCDs, interchangeable lenses, multiple P2 slots, etc. Now, where things get fun is that at NAB, IINM, they had a badge on the side of it that said "HD-D5".

October 27th, 2005, 09:58 PM	#9
Jaime Valles Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York City, NY Posts: 316	Just curious... What are the details of the HD-D5 format? How does it compare to DVCProHD? I would imagine that a P2 only Varicam 2 would be cheaper than the current Varicam, precisely because it won't have the expensive tape transport. Can you imagine 2/3" 1080/24p 4:2:2 HD for less than $30K!!! This $$$ figure is a complete and total guess, and is not based on any official information whatsoever.