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Sacha Moufarrege · June 28th, 2012, 04:15 PM

I'm new to digital video and recently bought a used HVX200 from Adorama for about $1500. It comes with a few batteries, a Pelican carrying case, and an AC adapter, but nothing else. I've been doing a bunch of research to figure out what else I'm going to need in order to be able to use it. So far I've determined I'll need a good tripod, some form of storage, lighting, etc.

One thing that's a major consideration for me is that I have a neurological condition where certain kinds of lights give me seizures. This includes the CCFL backlights on certain kinds of LCD displays, which I've been informed are the kind of backlight used by this camera. Fortunately, as I've found out in my research, I can hook up an external monitor to the camera. I had some questions about this that I was hoping someone could answer.

1. I've seen a few posts where people have mentioned using their computer monitors or laptops as external monitors for their cameras. Does this work for displaying settings menus too, or does it just show what the camera is recording? I'll probably need to be able to do both. Is this something I can do via Firewire to a laptop? Is there a better way to do it? I'm trying to figure out what cables I need to buy.

2. Because I'm just getting into digital video and my budget is limited, I'm looking to start out with equipment that is less expensive and then upgrade as needed. For example, I'm going to mostly be filming shots from fixed camera positions and without any need to pan/tilt while recording. As such, I'm guessing I can start out with a cheaper tripod head and just focus on sticks, is that correct? Any recommendations on an inexpensive setup that would work for a beginner who doesn't need too many features?

3. As I'm sure you know, P2 cards are pretty expensive. If I get a device like the Firestore FS-100, can I avoid buying P2 cards altogether, or does the data need to be written to a P2 card before it is sent to the Firestore? In the former case, can I just record to a laptop? In the latter, does the data copy to the Firestore in real time or does it happen when the card is full (i.e. do I need one P2 card or two for continuous recording?).

Thanks so much in advance for your time and help!

Chris Barcellos · June 28th, 2012, 09:20 PM

I only shot the HVX200 once about three years:

1. If you go firewire to laptop, It would not show overlay. If you go composite or component out, to a monitor or TV, you should have overlay, with ability to turn off on the camera.

2. Look up WF717 on google. This is a Weifang number, but has different names on it too. Mine happens to be a "Fancier" I paid about $140.00 Serviceable for simple situations. About half way down the page is a video review here: FT-717 A.K.A WF-717 Fluid Head + Tripod Review CheesyCam

3. As I recall, didn't need P2 card. We shot just to Firestore.

Sanjin Svajger · June 30th, 2012, 04:04 AM

I'm coming from HPX171 but mostly it should be true for HVX.

Firewire is a data connection just like usb so I don't think that you can view a live picture. As far as I understand it it's meant only for data transfer. For monitoring you'll have to use component. You can use composite but that's only 720x576 so it's useful only for framing and not for focusing.
I strongly urge you to use component which is HD. I'm sorry but I don't know of any monitor that is suitable for dialectics.

As for the tripod my thoughts are that you'll almost definitely want to pan or tilt. Trust me on this. You won't be doing just static shots. You'll want to go out and shot some birds in the park...I don't know:) but you'll definitely want to pan and tilt. I would buy a manfrotto 501 head. It's cheap but it can be used for panning and tilting and you can get a used one for quite cheap.

And yes you can output OSD via component output. I mean, at least with HPX171 you can. Most cameras can do this... I would advise you to read the manual a bit more thoroughly, as this is all explained in the manual. RTFM

Bill Bruner · July 9th, 2012, 07:03 AM

Sacha - I chose the

$120 Ravelli AVTP

fluid head tripod over the

$145 Fancier WF717

because it costs less money, is simpler and has better reviews. I recommend it highly.

Good luck with your new video endeavor,

Bill
Hybrid Camera Revolution

Chris Harding · July 11th, 2012, 09:17 PM

Hi Sacha

I have been using 2 of the sub $200 Weifengs and they are pretty darn good...I love the bowl for levelling!!

The only issues I have had on the one tripod was the handle wingnut broke off so I made up one!! If you get one, grab a spare handle as well from eBay...it makes control a lot better.

My tripods are 3 years old now and still working well..but at that price you could also afford to replace them every couple of years

Chris

June 28th, 2012, 04:15 PM	#1
Sacha Moufarrege Tourist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 2	new to video, bought an HVX200 I'm new to digital video and recently bought a used HVX200 from Adorama for about $1500. It comes with a few batteries, a Pelican carrying case, and an AC adapter, but nothing else. I've been doing a bunch of research to figure out what else I'm going to need in order to be able to use it. So far I've determined I'll need a good tripod, some form of storage, lighting, etc. One thing that's a major consideration for me is that I have a neurological condition where certain kinds of lights give me seizures. This includes the CCFL backlights on certain kinds of LCD displays, which I've been informed are the kind of backlight used by this camera. Fortunately, as I've found out in my research, I can hook up an external monitor to the camera. I had some questions about this that I was hoping someone could answer. 1. I've seen a few posts where people have mentioned using their computer monitors or laptops as external monitors for their cameras. Does this work for displaying settings menus too, or does it just show what the camera is recording? I'll probably need to be able to do both. Is this something I can do via Firewire to a laptop? Is there a better way to do it? I'm trying to figure out what cables I need to buy. 2. Because I'm just getting into digital video and my budget is limited, I'm looking to start out with equipment that is less expensive and then upgrade as needed. For example, I'm going to mostly be filming shots from fixed camera positions and without any need to pan/tilt while recording. As such, I'm guessing I can start out with a cheaper tripod head and just focus on sticks, is that correct? Any recommendations on an inexpensive setup that would work for a beginner who doesn't need too many features? 3. As I'm sure you know, P2 cards are pretty expensive. If I get a device like the Firestore FS-100, can I avoid buying P2 cards altogether, or does the data need to be written to a P2 card before it is sent to the Firestore? In the former case, can I just record to a laptop? In the latter, does the data copy to the Firestore in real time or does it happen when the card is full (i.e. do I need one P2 card or two for continuous recording?). Thanks so much in advance for your time and help!

June 28th, 2012, 09:20 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: new to video, bought an HVX200 I only shot the HVX200 once about three years: 1. If you go firewire to laptop, It would not show overlay. If you go composite or component out, to a monitor or TV, you should have overlay, with ability to turn off on the camera. 2. Look up WF717 on google. This is a Weifang number, but has different names on it too. Mine happens to be a "Fancier" I paid about $140.00 Serviceable for simple situations. About half way down the page is a video review here: FT-717 A.K.A WF-717 Fluid Head + Tripod Review CheesyCam 3. As I recall, didn't need P2 card. We shot just to Firestore. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

June 30th, 2012, 04:04 AM	#3
Sanjin Svajger Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slovenia Posts: 356	Re: new to video, bought an HVX200 I'm coming from HPX171 but mostly it should be true for HVX. Firewire is a data connection just like usb so I don't think that you can view a live picture. As far as I understand it it's meant only for data transfer. For monitoring you'll have to use component. You can use composite but that's only 720x576 so it's useful only for framing and not for focusing. I strongly urge you to use component which is HD. I'm sorry but I don't know of any monitor that is suitable for dialectics. As for the tripod my thoughts are that you'll almost definitely want to pan or tilt. Trust me on this. You won't be doing just static shots. You'll want to go out and shot some birds in the park...I don't know:) but you'll definitely want to pan and tilt. I would buy a manfrotto 501 head. It's cheap but it can be used for panning and tilting and you can get a used one for quite cheap. And yes you can output OSD via component output. I mean, at least with HPX171 you can. Most cameras can do this... I would advise you to read the manual a bit more thoroughly, as this is all explained in the manual. RTFM

July 9th, 2012, 07:03 AM	#4
Bill Bruner Major Player Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sunny California Posts: 513	Re: new to video, bought an HVX200 Sacha - I chose the $120 Ravelli AVTP $120 Ravelli AVTP fluid head tripod over the $145 Fancier WF717 $145 Fancier WF717 because it costs less money, is simpler and has better reviews. I recommend it highly. Good luck with your new video endeavor, Bill Hybrid Camera Revolution

July 11th, 2012, 09:17 PM	#5
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: new to video, bought an HVX200 Hi Sacha I have been using 2 of the sub $200 Weifengs and they are pretty darn good...I love the bowl for levelling!! The only issues I have had on the one tripod was the handle wingnut broke off so I made up one!! If you get one, grab a spare handle as well from eBay...it makes control a lot better. My tripods are 3 years old now and still working well..but at that price you could also afford to replace them every couple of years Chris