HPX370 and field monitor at DVinfo.net

Philip Fass · March 9th, 2012, 07:58 AM

If you attach an external monitor through HD-SDI, does the built-in monitor still function for menus?

Daniel Epstein · March 10th, 2012, 08:54 PM

Philip,
Attaching a monitor to the HDSDI on P2 cameras doesn't change what the camera monitor/ viewfinder shows you. It is a separate output. Something we would like on other cameras. Now I know some cameras turn off the viewfinder if the side monitor is in use but that is another issue.

Philip Fass · March 11th, 2012, 08:26 AM

Thank you, Daniel. For a 3 foot SDI/BNC cable, does it matter much whether you use expensive or cheap? I've seen Canare at one end and Monoprice at the other.

Konstantin Kovalev · March 11th, 2012, 08:38 AM

I know for sure that there isn't one home theater enthusiast who wouldn't use Monoprice cables...

IMO, the only practical difference between any cable is the construction/build quality, if you feel that cable X is not going to survive your level of abuse compared to cable Y, get something sturdier. In terms of signal quality, there's no difference, even less so for digital signals than analog.

Daniel Epstein · March 11th, 2012, 06:01 PM

In my experience HDSDI can run on regular RG59 Video cable up to around 100 feet very reliably.
Check out the chart on this link page for actual SMPTE Specs. I think of it like Radio Mic distances. I did check out my long snakes to see if they could handle HDSDI and swapped out some cables even though they were shorter than the supposed maximum.

Extron Electronics - Distributing High Definition, High Performance Imagery for InfoComm's Large Venue Display Gallery ? How We Do It

I found it on the DVInfo Net discussion

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/open-dv-...le-length.html

Bad cable can cause problems at any length. I have been in situations where Digital wouldn't pass on a cable which analog would but only for long runs. Problem with Digital is when it does reach it's limits it just stops working while Analog gets worse and worse but still exists.

Philip Fass · March 12th, 2012, 07:12 AM

I've noticed that the B&H website only sells M-M BNC cables, when you'd need a F end for the camera and M for the monitor. Are M-F cables unusual items, or am I missing something?

Daniel Epstein · March 12th, 2012, 09:52 AM

Philip,
Yes You are missing something. BNC cables are not like audio cables. Gear like the camera and monitor have female ends and cable has male on both sides. Too make longer cables out of shorter ones you use a barrel. (Hey thanks for reminding me I have one barrel in my pocket I have been carrying around for weeks) M-M Cables would be the standard. I have bought inexpensive (dare I say cheap) cables and have had poor consistency. Don't go for the cheapest if you don't have time to test them and return them.

Philip Fass · March 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM

Sorry, my mistake. Waiting for new glasses and couldn't see hole in center post.

Daniel Epstein · March 12th, 2012, 10:50 AM

No Problem. There are many cable configurations so better to be safe and ask.

March 9th, 2012, 07:58 AM	#1
Philip Fass Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte, VT Posts: 397	HPX370 and field monitor If you attach an external monitor through HD-SDI, does the built-in monitor still function for menus?

March 10th, 2012, 08:54 PM	#2
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Re: HPX370 and field monitor Philip, Attaching a monitor to the HDSDI on P2 cameras doesn't change what the camera monitor/ viewfinder shows you. It is a separate output. Something we would like on other cameras. Now I know some cameras turn off the viewfinder if the side monitor is in use but that is another issue.

March 11th, 2012, 08:26 AM	#3
Philip Fass Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte, VT Posts: 397	Re: HPX370 and field monitor Thank you, Daniel. For a 3 foot SDI/BNC cable, does it matter much whether you use expensive or cheap? I've seen Canare at one end and Monoprice at the other.

March 11th, 2012, 08:38 AM	#4
Konstantin Kovalev Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 81	Re: HPX370 and field monitor I know for sure that there isn't one home theater enthusiast who wouldn't use Monoprice cables... IMO, the only practical difference between any cable is the construction/build quality, if you feel that cable X is not going to survive your level of abuse compared to cable Y, get something sturdier. In terms of signal quality, there's no difference, even less so for digital signals than analog.

March 11th, 2012, 06:01 PM	#5
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Re: HPX370 and field monitor In my experience HDSDI can run on regular RG59 Video cable up to around 100 feet very reliably. Check out the chart on this link page for actual SMPTE Specs. I think of it like Radio Mic distances. I did check out my long snakes to see if they could handle HDSDI and swapped out some cables even though they were shorter than the supposed maximum. Extron Electronics - Distributing High Definition, High Performance Imagery for InfoComm's Large Venue Display Gallery ? How We Do It I found it on the DVInfo Net discussion http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/open-dv-...le-length.html Bad cable can cause problems at any length. I have been in situations where Digital wouldn't pass on a cable which analog would but only for long runs. Problem with Digital is when it does reach it's limits it just stops working while Analog gets worse and worse but still exists.

March 12th, 2012, 07:12 AM	#6
Philip Fass Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte, VT Posts: 397	Re: HPX370 and field monitor I've noticed that the B&H website only sells M-M BNC cables, when you'd need a F end for the camera and M for the monitor. Are M-F cables unusual items, or am I missing something?

March 12th, 2012, 09:52 AM	#7
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Re: HPX370 and field monitor Philip, Yes You are missing something. BNC cables are not like audio cables. Gear like the camera and monitor have female ends and cable has male on both sides. Too make longer cables out of shorter ones you use a barrel. (Hey thanks for reminding me I have one barrel in my pocket I have been carrying around for weeks) M-M Cables would be the standard. I have bought inexpensive (dare I say cheap) cables and have had poor consistency. Don't go for the cheapest if you don't have time to test them and return them.

March 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#8
Philip Fass Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte, VT Posts: 397	Re: HPX370 and field monitor Sorry, my mistake. Waiting for new glasses and couldn't see hole in center post.

March 12th, 2012, 10:50 AM	#9
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Re: HPX370 and field monitor No Problem. There are many cable configurations so better to be safe and ask.