P2 card problem at DVinfo.net

Sanjin Svajger · June 5th, 2010, 04:02 AM

Hi all!

Last weekend I was shooting a music video using my HPX 171 with a 32GB P2E card from maxell and a 250GB firestore. At the end of the day (3 AM) I inserted the P2 in the cam and connected the firestore to check some of the footage. To my big surprise and disappointment (which led to anger) I found the P2 card empty. I know that the material was on the card because I kept checking what was shoot. At the end of the day I checked again and also deleted a couple of takes I found useless - then I took the card out of the cam.

Any ideas as to what could have gone wrong? Anything? Is there a scenario where a P2 card would automatically format?

Later on I tried to shoot whit the card and everything was alright. Tried the same scenario and nothing got erased...

TingSern Wong · June 13th, 2010, 08:58 AM

I never delete any takes from the P2 card. I go back - copy everything into the editing workstation Hard-disks, then delete the copied takes that I don't want.

I noticed your P2 card is Maxell. I have never used any 3rd P2 cards, other than Panasonic's originals.

Barry Green · June 19th, 2010, 01:06 AM

There are things that can lead to it appearing to be empty, when it's not. For example, if you've changed the thumbnail display to show "same format clips" or "marked clips", and there aren't any, then the card will show no thumbnails. Which might lead you to think that it's empty, when in fact it might be full of clips. Switch to "all clips" and it will show you what's on the card.

Sanjin Svajger · June 19th, 2010, 07:43 PM

@Ting: yes, neither do I, but I needed some space because I thought that I was gone shoot some more but then didn't...

Hi Barry! Yes I've gotten my self scared once with that :) But no, on this occasion it was deleted for sure because it showed the whole 35 minutes of recording time left... Anyway since this happened I've shoot lots with the card and nothing bad happened. But still, I am a bit worried - don't want it to happen again.

TingSern Wong · June 20th, 2010, 08:33 AM

You might accidentally hit the wrong button on the camera? "Format" instead of "Delete"? That's why I always bring enough P2 cards along for a shoot to ensure that I never need to delete footage during the actual shoot. So far, I have never had any problems with my P2 cards.

Tom Klein · June 20th, 2010, 03:44 PM

I Agree with TingSern,

Never "delete" anything untill after downloading card to another drive, that's a simple rule I've used for some years.
sometimes you can even salvage some part of an unwanted clip/out take for use.

PS, good advice from Barry too.

Cheers

June 5th, 2010, 04:02 AM	#1
Sanjin Svajger Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slovenia Posts: 356	P2 card problem Hi all! Last weekend I was shooting a music video using my HPX 171 with a 32GB P2E card from maxell and a 250GB firestore. At the end of the day (3 AM) I inserted the P2 in the cam and connected the firestore to check some of the footage. To my big surprise and disappointment (which led to anger) I found the P2 card empty. I know that the material was on the card because I kept checking what was shoot. At the end of the day I checked again and also deleted a couple of takes I found useless - then I took the card out of the cam. Any ideas as to what could have gone wrong? Anything? Is there a scenario where a P2 card would automatically format? Later on I tried to shoot whit the card and everything was alright. Tried the same scenario and nothing got erased...

June 20th, 2010, 03:44 PM	#6
Tom Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Vic Posts: 160	I Agree with TingSern, Never "delete" anything untill after downloading card to another drive, that's a simple rule I've used for some years. sometimes you can even salvage some part of an unwanted clip/out take for use. PS, good advice from Barry too. Cheers __________________ Tom K www.olinevideo.com.au

June 13th, 2010, 08:58 AM	#2
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	I never delete any takes from the P2 card. I go back - copy everything into the editing workstation Hard-disks, then delete the copied takes that I don't want. I noticed your P2 card is Maxell. I have never used any 3rd P2 cards, other than Panasonic's originals.

June 19th, 2010, 01:06 AM	#3
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	There are things that can lead to it appearing to be empty, when it's not. For example, if you've changed the thumbnail display to show "same format clips" or "marked clips", and there aren't any, then the card will show no thumbnails. Which might lead you to think that it's empty, when in fact it might be full of clips. Switch to "all clips" and it will show you what's on the card.

June 19th, 2010, 07:43 PM	#4
Sanjin Svajger Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slovenia Posts: 356	@Ting: yes, neither do I, but I needed some space because I thought that I was gone shoot some more but then didn't... Hi Barry! Yes I've gotten my self scared once with that :) But no, on this occasion it was deleted for sure because it showed the whole 35 minutes of recording time left... Anyway since this happened I've shoot lots with the card and nothing bad happened. But still, I am a bit worried - don't want it to happen again.

June 20th, 2010, 08:33 AM	#5
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	You might accidentally hit the wrong button on the camera? "Format" instead of "Delete"? That's why I always bring enough P2 cards along for a shoot to ensure that I never need to delete footage during the actual shoot. So far, I have never had any problems with my P2 cards.