Rental Rates at DVinfo.net

Peter Richardson · July 16th, 2005, 05:17 PM

What sort of day rate do you think this camera will rent for, with P2 cards? Curious to know how quickly we'll all be able to recoup our investment.

Peter

Bill Pryor · July 16th, 2005, 07:21 PM

The old rule of thumb was that rental was about 1 percent of the cost of the gear. So if a camera cost $20,000 it would rent for 200 bucks. Today the rate seems to be somewhere around 2 or 2-1/2 percent, so a $20,000 package goes for $400-$500.

Peter Richardson · July 17th, 2005, 02:22 PM

Thanks Bill! I know the DVX100A goes for 150/day, which would be about 4.5%, so I wonder, with good quality cameras getting cheaper, if the percentage is getting higher. At 4.5%, that would put the HVX at 450/day, which does seem a little steep...I guess the market will decide.

Peter

Kevin Triplett · July 17th, 2005, 02:43 PM

It's sometimes a sliding scale, based on durability and accessibility. DV cameras are notoriously obsolete quickly whereas c-stands never seem to go out of fashion. Also, cameras are more delicate than other equipment, even audio. Mopac Media here in Austin, TX will have one for rent as soon as it comes out and we're looking at a day rate of $250 or more, with multiple P2 cards. But that's the student rate -- I suspect the commercial rate will be slightly higher, probably $325 or more. But that's here in Texas -- I notice that L.A. and N.Y.C. rates for electronic equipment are considerably higher.

Ash Greyson · July 17th, 2005, 08:55 PM

I am in Oklahoma and I have found rates MUCH cheaper in LA/NYC... more competition, lower prices. I will be shocked if an HVX with P2 cards is less than $500 a day ANYWHERE the first 6 months

ash =o)

Edwin Hernandez · July 17th, 2005, 09:45 PM

Come on Ash! More than $500 a day is way too much money. Remember it's a small camera with great features but with some limitations. For example, no interchangeable lens to start with.
So, I think $350 or $400 a day would be fair. But, hey it's a great camera and you can also reduce a lot of money renting a small tripod mounted crane, than a crane for a Digital Betacam and so the other accesories.
And still have a great production.

/EDWIN

Edwin Hernandez · July 17th, 2005, 09:47 PM

Suppose I bought the camera without the P2 cards. How much would you think a P2 card alone would be rented for on a daily basis?
-EDWIN

Michael Struthers · July 18th, 2005, 02:43 PM

Z1 is going for 225 a day. It will probably drop to 175 a day. I would say hvx would replace the z1 at the 225 level. Maybe 275 tops.

Then again, the sdx900 is 600 a day...

Ash Greyson · July 18th, 2005, 04:11 PM

In all honesty, it is hard to say. I know there is a LOT of anticipation for this camera and MOST people will want to try it out before buying. When you rent an SDX you are not renting the media too. I think $500 with 2 P2 cards is realistic at first in most markets.

ash =o)

Don Donatello · July 19th, 2005, 11:32 PM

also for small camera's lets not forget SUPPY & DEMAND ...
the local camera house in SF bay area may have the DVX 100 for 200 a day but there are so many around you can find private rentals for 80-100 day.

July 16th, 2005, 05:17 PM	#1
Peter Richardson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 608	Rental Rates What sort of day rate do you think this camera will rent for, with P2 cards? Curious to know how quickly we'll all be able to recoup our investment. Peter

July 18th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#8
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Z1 is going for 225 a day. It will probably drop to 175 a day. I would say hvx would replace the z1 at the 225 level. Maybe 275 tops. Then again, the sdx900 is 600 a day... __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

July 16th, 2005, 07:21 PM	#2
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	The old rule of thumb was that rental was about 1 percent of the cost of the gear. So if a camera cost $20,000 it would rent for 200 bucks. Today the rate seems to be somewhere around 2 or 2-1/2 percent, so a $20,000 package goes for $400-$500.

July 17th, 2005, 02:22 PM	#3
Peter Richardson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 608	Thanks Bill! I know the DVX100A goes for 150/day, which would be about 4.5%, so I wonder, with good quality cameras getting cheaper, if the percentage is getting higher. At 4.5%, that would put the HVX at 450/day, which does seem a little steep...I guess the market will decide. Peter

July 17th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#4
Kevin Triplett Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 47	It's sometimes a sliding scale, based on durability and accessibility. DV cameras are notoriously obsolete quickly whereas c-stands never seem to go out of fashion. Also, cameras are more delicate than other equipment, even audio. Mopac Media here in Austin, TX will have one for rent as soon as it comes out and we're looking at a day rate of $250 or more, with multiple P2 cards. But that's the student rate -- I suspect the commercial rate will be slightly higher, probably $325 or more. But that's here in Texas -- I notice that L.A. and N.Y.C. rates for electronic equipment are considerably higher.

July 17th, 2005, 08:55 PM	#5
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	I am in Oklahoma and I have found rates MUCH cheaper in LA/NYC... more competition, lower prices. I will be shocked if an HVX with P2 cards is less than $500 a day ANYWHERE the first 6 months ash =o)

July 17th, 2005, 09:45 PM	#6
Edwin Hernandez Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 162	Come on Ash! More than $500 a day is way too much money. Remember it's a small camera with great features but with some limitations. For example, no interchangeable lens to start with. So, I think $350 or $400 a day would be fair. But, hey it's a great camera and you can also reduce a lot of money renting a small tripod mounted crane, than a crane for a Digital Betacam and so the other accesories. And still have a great production. /EDWIN

July 17th, 2005, 09:47 PM	#7
Edwin Hernandez Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 162	Suppose I bought the camera without the P2 cards. How much would you think a P2 card alone would be rented for on a daily basis? -EDWIN

July 18th, 2005, 04:11 PM	#9
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	In all honesty, it is hard to say. I know there is a LOT of anticipation for this camera and MOST people will want to try it out before buying. When you rent an SDX you are not renting the media too. I think $500 with 2 P2 cards is realistic at first in most markets. ash =o)

July 19th, 2005, 11:32 PM	#10
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	also for small camera's lets not forget SUPPY & DEMAND ... the local camera house in SF bay area may have the DVX 100 for 200 a day but there are so many around you can find private rentals for 80-100 day.