What about the image?

Dylan Couper · July 4th, 2005, 10:26 AM

I predict that I'll have to listen to dozens of first time indie directors tell me how much the stuff they shot on the HVX200 looks like film, to the point where I just can't stand the camera anymore, despite owning one.

Then again, if I get one of the first ones to come into Vancouver, *I* can be that guy!

Bill Pryor · July 5th, 2005, 03:56 PM

Yeah, it's "deja vu all over again." Remember when the VX1000 looked "just like film." And then the XL1 with its frame mode looked "just like film." And then later the DVX100 with its 24p mode looked "just like film." For some reason the Sony Z1 with its version of the frame mode does not look "just like film." The Panasonic already "looks just like film" even though it's not even out yet. I wonder if the JVC does? Recently I saw a movie shot with the Varicam, edited in HD with a D5 master, then dubbed to SD video. It looked "just like film." Sort of.

Bogdan Apetri · July 5th, 2005, 05:15 PM

Ha ha!

Wait for those days when (all over again!) ANY KIND OF on-line HVX200 "sample footage" would be worth gold.

Peter Jefferson · July 9th, 2005, 05:54 AM

if the DVX lens is anythign to go by, it will look great.. as for the film look.. well if u want that look, use film...

why waste energy on a unit which FULL specs have even been made public yet???
Dont get me wrong, id prolly get one of these simply due to the fact that already use 2 DVX's and this will just complement those, but for those seeking "film look" if ur that desperate for it, consider actual film.. not everyone wants to deliver on film and for those of us who are in that category, this camera is good enough

Dominic Jones · July 12th, 2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogdan Apetri

BUT -- I see everyone is dreaming of a perfect HVX200 plus the mini35 as being the mother of all cameras. Honestly, I doubt that this set-up combination will produce perfectly acceptable large screen theatrical images - large screen being the key words here.

I wouldn't be *so* sure. I understand what you're saying mate, and you may well be right, but I'm looking to test Z1 footage w/ a mini35 and one of the labs I contacted has already done a transfer from an *SD* camera (XL-1, I think) + mini35 with (and I quote) "amazing" and "stunning" results - so add HD resolution to the picture and it *is* a possibility...

Bogdan Apetri · July 12th, 2005, 06:18 PM

I would be the first to be happy over my mistake, since I do plan to upgrade from the DVX to the HVX when it becomes available.

Dominic Jones · July 12th, 2005, 06:24 PM

Me too, I've got my fingers crossed!

I've also just come across an article which says that an (unnamed, so perhaps not to be trusted) lab received better, sharper results transferring SDX-900 footage (alright, bit of a difference there!) with the Pro35 and Zeiss superspeeds than with a Canon HD Zoom, which is interesting and perhaps lays slightly to rest the theory that large scale sharp images are not possible with 35mm adaptors...

Here's hoping!!

Bogdan Apetri · July 12th, 2005, 06:39 PM

Can you post the article link?

Bogdan

Dominic Jones · July 13th, 2005, 06:05 AM

Err... Yeah hold on, I think it's on cinematography.com...

Dominic Jones · July 13th, 2005, 06:06 AM

Ah ha!!

Here you go:
http://www.cinematography.com/forum2...topic=6903&hl=

July 4th, 2005, 10:26 AM	#16
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I predict that I'll have to listen to dozens of first time indie directors tell me how much the stuff they shot on the HVX200 looks like film, to the point where I just can't stand the camera anymore, despite owning one. Then again, if I get one of the first ones to come into Vancouver, I can be that guy! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

July 12th, 2005, 06:24 PM	#22
Dominic Jones Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 225	Me too, I've got my fingers crossed! I've also just come across an article which says that an (unnamed, so perhaps not to be trusted) lab received better, sharper results transferring SDX-900 footage (alright, bit of a difference there!) with the Pro35 and Zeiss superspeeds than with a Canon HD Zoom, which is interesting and perhaps lays slightly to rest the theory that large scale sharp images are not possible with 35mm adaptors... Here's hoping!! Last edited by Dominic Jones; July 13th, 2005 at 06:09 AM.

July 5th, 2005, 03:56 PM	#17
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Yeah, it's "deja vu all over again." Remember when the VX1000 looked "just like film." And then the XL1 with its frame mode looked "just like film." And then later the DVX100 with its 24p mode looked "just like film." For some reason the Sony Z1 with its version of the frame mode does not look "just like film." The Panasonic already "looks just like film" even though it's not even out yet. I wonder if the JVC does? Recently I saw a movie shot with the Varicam, edited in HD with a D5 master, then dubbed to SD video. It looked "just like film." Sort of.

July 5th, 2005, 05:15 PM	#18
Bogdan Apetri Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York, USA Posts: 117	Ha ha! Wait for those days when (all over again!) ANY KIND OF on-line HVX200 "sample footage" would be worth gold.

July 9th, 2005, 05:54 AM	#19
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	if the DVX lens is anythign to go by, it will look great.. as for the film look.. well if u want that look, use film... why waste energy on a unit which FULL specs have even been made public yet??? Dont get me wrong, id prolly get one of these simply due to the fact that already use 2 DVX's and this will just complement those, but for those seeking "film look" if ur that desperate for it, consider actual film.. not everyone wants to deliver on film and for those of us who are in that category, this camera is good enough

July 12th, 2005, 06:18 PM	#21
Bogdan Apetri Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York, USA Posts: 117	I would be the first to be happy over my mistake, since I do plan to upgrade from the DVX to the HVX when it becomes available.

July 12th, 2005, 06:39 PM	#23
Bogdan Apetri Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York, USA Posts: 117	Can you post the article link? Bogdan

July 13th, 2005, 06:05 AM	#24
Dominic Jones Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 225	Err... Yeah hold on, I think it's on cinematography.com...

July 13th, 2005, 06:06 AM	#25
Dominic Jones Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 225	Ah ha!! Here you go: http://www.cinematography.com/forum2...topic=6903&hl=