DVCPro HD/P2 Camcorder support in FCE-HD? at DVinfo.net

Dylan Pank · May 24th, 2005, 10:04 AM

How likely is it? Obviously when DVCproHD was Varicam only then I can see why it's not a feature of FCE, but now that the HVX200 is aimed at the prosumer market, I could see it being a more natural fit.

However, native DVCproHD support seems to be something that Apple wouldn't want to give up as a big incentive to go FCP rather than settle with FCE, but I can see Panasonic wanting DVCPro HD/P2 support in some of the lower-mid range NLE formats to properly place it as a competitor to HDV.

Chris Hurd · May 26th, 2005, 02:19 PM

Isn't it interesting how Final Cut Pro and Express tend to leap-frog each other somewhat with regard to supported formats at each release? I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is positioning the HVX at a level above the other competing HDV camcorders, so I don't think they're too concerned about getting DVCPRO HD compatibility into the lower mid-range NLE applications (although it would be nice, no question about that). You could almost argue that since you can put $10K into the HVX and a couple of P2 cards for shooting DVCPRO HD, then you could certainly afford to step up to Final Cut Pro from Express... right?

Boyd Ostroff · May 26th, 2005, 05:33 PM

I'd have to agree with Chris on this one. Apple has positioned FCE as a consumer level application and for marketing reasons has intentionally left out several features which would have been easy for them to add.

Alexandre Bartholo · June 1st, 2005, 06:54 AM

Wrong !

even in Imovie5 HD it is possible.
when i connect a HDV camcorder on it it grabs the frames in DVCPRO HD so i suppose it is fully compatible with the HVX 200.

so if you can do it in imovie, i suppose you also can in FCE

Alex.

Boyd Ostroff · June 1st, 2005, 07:35 AM

That's interesting... but not what Apple claims. According to their website, for iMovie HD Apple says the following formats are supported:

HDV (720p & 1080i)
MPEG-4 (Simple Profile)
iSight
DV
DV Widescreen

And for Final Cut Express they support the following"

Plug-and-play support for most DV25-format camcorders and decks: MiniDV and DVCAM (NTSC or PAL)

Plug-and-play support for most HDV-format camcorders and decks: 720p, 1080i

There is no mention of DVCPRO for either application, so I assume that using it would involve some sort of work-around. Maybe you can be more specific as to how you accomplish this?

May 24th, 2005, 10:04 AM	#1
Dylan Pank Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 611	DVCPro HD/P2 Camcorder support in FCE-HD? How likely is it? Obviously when DVCproHD was Varicam only then I can see why it's not a feature of FCE, but now that the HVX200 is aimed at the prosumer market, I could see it being a more natural fit. However, native DVCproHD support seems to be something that Apple wouldn't want to give up as a big incentive to go FCP rather than settle with FCE, but I can see Panasonic wanting DVCPro HD/P2 support in some of the lower-mid range NLE formats to properly place it as a competitor to HDV.

May 26th, 2005, 02:19 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Isn't it interesting how Final Cut Pro and Express tend to leap-frog each other somewhat with regard to supported formats at each release? I'm pretty sure that Panasonic is positioning the HVX at a level above the other competing HDV camcorders, so I don't think they're too concerned about getting DVCPRO HD compatibility into the lower mid-range NLE applications (although it would be nice, no question about that). You could almost argue that since you can put $10K into the HVX and a couple of P2 cards for shooting DVCPRO HD, then you could certainly afford to step up to Final Cut Pro from Express... right? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 26th, 2005, 05:33 PM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I'd have to agree with Chris on this one. Apple has positioned FCE as a consumer level application and for marketing reasons has intentionally left out several features which would have been easy for them to add.

June 1st, 2005, 06:54 AM	#4
Alexandre Bartholo New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Paris Posts: 13	Wrong ! even in Imovie5 HD it is possible. when i connect a HDV camcorder on it it grabs the frames in DVCPRO HD so i suppose it is fully compatible with the HVX 200. so if you can do it in imovie, i suppose you also can in FCE Alex.

June 1st, 2005, 07:35 AM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	That's interesting... but not what Apple claims. According to their website, for iMovie HD Apple says the following formats are supported: HDV (720p & 1080i) MPEG-4 (Simple Profile) iSight DV DV Widescreen And for Final Cut Express they support the following" Plug-and-play support for most DV25-format camcorders and decks: MiniDV and DVCAM (NTSC or PAL) Plug-and-play support for most HDV-format camcorders and decks: 720p, 1080i There is no mention of DVCPRO for either application, so I assume that using it would involve some sort of work-around. Maybe you can be more specific as to how you accomplish this?