The New Panasonic HPX-300... at DVinfo.net

Casey Krugman · February 11th, 2009, 03:50 PM

Here's the Official Press release from Panasonic.

Panasonic USA Pressroom

Jon Fairhurst · February 11th, 2009, 04:37 PM

$10k+ for a 1/3" camera seems dated.

RED's announcements and the new DV-SLRs have changed expectations.

Zack Birlew · February 11th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Too late.

Panasonic needed to do this a year or two ago. Now there are so many options it's hard to sift through all the camera choices anymore.

Jack Zhang · February 11th, 2009, 06:23 PM

CMOS is a huge offset for me, since this would still be impossible to matchmove accurately due to the Rolling Shutter.

Paulo Teixeira · February 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM

I don’t know about you guys, but a $10,700 camera that records to AVC Intra at 100MBPS seams extremely impressive. I just wish it was as small as Sony’s EX3 and JVC’s HM700 but then again all that horsepower might not have fit.

Here’s a couple of videos:
Abel Cine Tech - Video: A First Look at Panasonic's HPX300

Christian Magnussen · February 11th, 2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

$10k+ for a 1/3" camera seems dated.

RED's announcements and the new DV-SLRs have changed expectations.

RED's announcements are more roadmaps, Pana and JVC can deliver their in a few months...

HPX300 looks impressive, the only catch is still the use of 1/3" chips, but again...price must be kept down for both lens and chip.
http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/c...E_Brochure.pdf

Paulo Teixeira · February 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM

Cameras usually gets released for much less than the announced price so it’s better to wait until we get prices from places like B&H, etc.

Tim Polster · February 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM

Interesting that this camera costs the same as the HPX-500.

It will be interesting to see the 1/3" full raster vs. 2/3" pixel shift in terms of image quality.

I will always want the larger chips, but they are pricing them like they are equal.

But I agree, Do we need another 1/3" chip camera?

This camera a year ago would have made much more of a splash.

David Heath · February 12th, 2009, 04:30 AM

Do we know if that $10,700 includes a lens?

There's quite a lot of good things with this camera, and full marks to Panasonic for the 3 2.2MP chips and shouldermount. I'm also pretty amazed to see true pro features such as proxy abilities to SD card, and integrated radio mic support on a camera in this price range, to say nothing of a few other features.

Personally, I'd like to roll this and an EX3 into one - keep the 1/2" chips and SxS/SDHC media of the EX3, but form factor and other features of this. Either way, it looks as if 2.2MP chips are here to stay.

Christian Magnussen · February 12th, 2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Polster

Interesting that this camera costs the same as the HPX-500.

I can't find any HPX500 with lens that will be under $10k, $18-19k is what HPx500 go for from BHP.

I'll guess around $9k as street price, and i'm suspecting "bundles" either from pana or dealers with two 32gb P2 cards will be about $10k.

Chris Hurd · February 12th, 2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by David Heath

Do we know if that $10,700 includes a lens?

Yes, indeed it does include a 17x Fuji HD lens. Frankly I agree with Paulo; the price is amazingly low for an SDI-equipped camera with AVC Intra. And yes it should be clearly understood that this price is far below that of an HPX500 with lens.

Tim Polster · February 12th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Good correction. Sorry.

I did not realize the 17x lens was part of the package.

But, I think for this camera to really have 'whooped up' on the Sony it would need 1/2" chips and offer the option of SD card recording like the HMC-150.

Now that the M&R solution is in use, the EX-1 for $6,000 is a lot better value than the HPX-300 at $9,000 given they are both CMOS and the memory price comparisons are pretty far apart.

Joe Lawry · February 12th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Does SDHC have the through-put to record AVC-I?

I was all set to sell my original HVX and upgrade to this camera.. but the 1/3" chips have just killed it. Im keeping my hvx.

Still, a lovely camera though, its a shame its going to cost a stupid amount of money down here with current exchange rates. I'd rather invest more and go 2/3".

David Heath · February 12th, 2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Lawry

Does SDHC have the through-put to record AVC-I?

Probably only at 50Mbs. Compact Flash would have been nice though - the XDR proves even fairly cheap CF can record 100Mbs video. The camera has a lot of very nice things about it, if it had had 1/2" chips and CF recording it would have made it about as perfect as could be hoped for at this sort of price.

Tim Polster · February 12th, 2009, 03:32 PM

I don't know but Sandisk has SDHC cards with advertised 30MBps read & writes.

The HMC-150 can record 24Mbps using class 4 cards so maybe 50Mbps intra might not be that far away?

February 11th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#1
Casey Krugman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 135	The New Panasonic HPX-300... Here's the Official Press release from Panasonic. Panasonic USA Pressroom

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February 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM	#5
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	I don’t know about you guys, but a $10,700 camera that records to AVC Intra at 100MBPS seams extremely impressive. I just wish it was as small as Sony’s EX3 and JVC’s HM700 but then again all that horsepower might not have fit. Here’s a couple of videos: Abel Cine Tech - Video: A First Look at Panasonic's HPX300 __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot Last edited by Paulo Teixeira; February 11th, 2009 at 08:14 PM.

February 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM	#7
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	Cameras usually gets released for much less than the announced price so it’s better to wait until we get prices from places like B&H, etc. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

February 11th, 2009, 04:42 PM	#3
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	Too late. Panasonic needed to do this a year or two ago. Now there are so many options it's hard to sift through all the camera choices anymore.

February 11th, 2009, 06:23 PM	#4
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	CMOS is a huge offset for me, since this would still be impossible to matchmove accurately due to the Rolling Shutter.

February 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM	#8
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Interesting that this camera costs the same as the HPX-500. It will be interesting to see the 1/3" full raster vs. 2/3" pixel shift in terms of image quality. I will always want the larger chips, but they are pricing them like they are equal. But I agree, Do we need another 1/3" chip camera? This camera a year ago would have made much more of a splash.

February 12th, 2009, 04:30 AM	#9
David Heath Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,699	Do we know if that $10,700 includes a lens? There's quite a lot of good things with this camera, and full marks to Panasonic for the 3 2.2MP chips and shouldermount. I'm also pretty amazed to see true pro features such as proxy abilities to SD card, and integrated radio mic support on a camera in this price range, to say nothing of a few other features. Personally, I'd like to roll this and an EX3 into one - keep the 1/2" chips and SxS/SDHC media of the EX3, but form factor and other features of this. Either way, it looks as if 2.2MP chips are here to stay.

February 12th, 2009, 01:01 PM	#12
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Good correction. Sorry. I did not realize the 17x lens was part of the package. But, I think for this camera to really have 'whooped up' on the Sony it would need 1/2" chips and offer the option of SD card recording like the HMC-150. Now that the M&R solution is in use, the EX-1 for $6,000 is a lot better value than the HPX-300 at $9,000 given they are both CMOS and the memory price comparisons are pretty far apart.

February 12th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#13
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	Does SDHC have the through-put to record AVC-I? I was all set to sell my original HVX and upgrade to this camera.. but the 1/3" chips have just killed it. Im keeping my hvx. Still, a lovely camera though, its a shame its going to cost a stupid amount of money down here with current exchange rates. I'd rather invest more and go 2/3".

February 12th, 2009, 03:32 PM	#15
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	I don't know but Sandisk has SDHC cards with advertised 30MBps read & writes. The HMC-150 can record 24Mbps using class 4 cards so maybe 50Mbps intra might not be that far away?