AJ-HPX3000 info including PDF Brochure at DVinfo.net

Paulo Teixeira · December 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM

https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro...000/index.html
It’s about 2 months old but I have never seen it posted.

It must really be nice being able to afford something like this.

TingSern Wong · December 2nd, 2007, 01:35 AM

My eyes popped out ... bad for dreams :-). This one is really good - but, I suspect the price will be up into the stratosphere.

4:2:2 at 10 bits - now, if they can retrofit the HVX202 with that, I gladly trade in my old HVX202 for the improved version.

Paulo Teixeira · December 2nd, 2007, 02:31 AM

It retails for $48,000

AJ-HPX3000 wins SATISFECIT Award
http://www.screenafrica.com/news/tech/695360.htm

David Heath · December 2nd, 2007, 05:25 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Panasonic seem to not have any 720 recording option on this camera? Only various framerates (i and p) at 1080, 576 and 480 resolutions?

Even if (as a top end camera) it may mainly be used in 1080p mode, I would have thought 720p recording would have been included, for compatability with any client who demanded it? Seems odd to provide 480 and 576 downconversions, but not 720.

Shawn Alyasiri · December 3rd, 2007, 03:12 PM

Good catch, agreed, and yes...

It doesn't do 720 - I had received clarification from Panny engineering some time back about it - can't find the email, but it boiled down to something technical (obviously) in the development that lead to them leaving it out.

Can't remember if it was heat, downconversion from the native chipset not creating good 720 images or what... I shouldn't speculate - but I thought it was along those lines.

Eitherway - it's a 480/1080 camera (not including overseas) - still a darn good looking rig.

I have two 2000's - they're great - and I shoot 1080 with them all the time, even though they're native 720 chipsets.

Dale Stoltzfus · December 3rd, 2007, 03:23 PM

Wow. What intrigued me was the Dynamic Range Stretcher function. Interesting...

David Heath · December 3rd, 2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Alyasiri

It doesn't do 720 - .......can't find the email, but it boiled down to something technical ..........

Can't remember if it was heat, downconversion from the native chipset not creating good 720 images or what... .

Well - in the past cameras tended to be 720 or 1080 only by design, and generally it was 720 from Panasonic, 1080 from Sony. Recent trends from both manufacturers have been to go for a dual standard, especially with the move away from tape, and heat and downconversion don't seem to have been a problem for a lot of models from various manufacturers.

Even the EX does a 720 downconversion from 1920x1080 chips, and that's a small body, where you'd expect heat to be a bigger problem. What this means with the 3000 is that if you want 50/60Hz motion, you HAVE to go for 1080i, which seems a big about face for Panasonic - the champions of 720 for so long.

I did wonder if it was due to AVC-Intra being a 1080 only codec - seems strange, but the original post makes quite a lot of connections between AVC-Intra and 1920x1080. Then again, the 3000 does have a DVCProHD mode, so even if the latter was true, then surely that could be used for 720? Strange.

Shawn Alyasiri · December 3rd, 2007, 09:05 PM

Just an FYI - Pretty sure AVC-Intra does both 720/1080...

My understanding is that 720 Intra will be 1280x720 (where DVCPRO HD is 960x720) as Intra 50 or 100

1080 Intra will be 1440x1080 (Intra 50) or 1920x1080 (Intra 100) where DVCPROHD is 1280x1080.

Looking forward to trying it - although I understand you need a beefier system to deal with the compression.

Edius is set and ready for it (the settings above are listed in the project settings when you start an Edius project) - although you need a dongle license to play it - similar to P2 with them, etc.

Per the other - I figured it was a marketing thing, expecting that a P2 Varicam would/will do both - a model 3000+. However, the word from engineering suggested otherwise.

Either way - they're making cams that are hard to beat...

Simon Sommerfeld · December 4th, 2007, 07:17 PM

Hi Fellas,

As has been mentioned, the HPX3000 does not record at all in 720p.

A little more info (some of which may be in the online pdf):
It is a 2/3", 2.2 megapixel native 1080p camera (full raster 1920x1080 - no pre filtering).
When using AVC-Intra codec it records 4:2:2 10 Bit 1920x1080 at 100Mb/sec and 4:2:0 10 Bit 1440x1080 at 50Mb/sec (in native 24p/25p/30p and 50i/60i).
It will also record in DVCPro HD (not native, but over 50i/60i) and DVCPro 50 (no 25).
It does not record in variable frame rates like the Varicam, HPX500 and HVX200.
Sensitivity is rated at 400 ASA @ 0dB (24fps/180 deg shutter) and they say it has 11 stops of latitude.
The Dynamic Range Stretch function samples the raster in very small blocks and monitors the dynamic range of each block. It continuously adjusts the gamma and black stretch and expands the dynamic range to try and keep all areas of the image exposed correctly.

The word from Panasonic is there will be a "Varicam 2" delivered in approximately 18 months that will be a 4:4:4 P2 camera. There may be a working demo at this upcoming NAB.

Best,
Simon.

December 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM	#1
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December 4th, 2007, 07:17 PM	#9
Simon Sommerfeld Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Redwood City California Posts: 33	Some AJ-HPX3000 specs Hi Fellas, As has been mentioned, the HPX3000 does not record at all in 720p. A little more info (some of which may be in the online pdf): It is a 2/3", 2.2 megapixel native 1080p camera (full raster 1920x1080 - no pre filtering). When using AVC-Intra codec it records 4:2:2 10 Bit 1920x1080 at 100Mb/sec and 4:2:0 10 Bit 1440x1080 at 50Mb/sec (in native 24p/25p/30p and 50i/60i). It will also record in DVCPro HD (not native, but over 50i/60i) and DVCPro 50 (no 25). It does not record in variable frame rates like the Varicam, HPX500 and HVX200. Sensitivity is rated at 400 ASA @ 0dB (24fps/180 deg shutter) and they say it has 11 stops of latitude. The Dynamic Range Stretch function samples the raster in very small blocks and monitors the dynamic range of each block. It continuously adjusts the gamma and black stretch and expands the dynamic range to try and keep all areas of the image exposed correctly. The word from Panasonic is there will be a "Varicam 2" delivered in approximately 18 months that will be a 4:4:4 P2 camera. There may be a working demo at this upcoming NAB. Best, Simon. __________________ Redwood City CA.

December 2nd, 2007, 01:35 AM	#2
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	My eyes popped out ... bad for dreams :-). This one is really good - but, I suspect the price will be up into the stratosphere. 4:2:2 at 10 bits - now, if they can retrofit the HVX202 with that, I gladly trade in my old HVX202 for the improved version.

December 2nd, 2007, 05:25 PM	#4
David Heath Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,699	Correct me if I'm wrong, but Panasonic seem to not have any 720 recording option on this camera? Only various framerates (i and p) at 1080, 576 and 480 resolutions? Even if (as a top end camera) it may mainly be used in 1080p mode, I would have thought 720p recording would have been included, for compatability with any client who demanded it? Seems odd to provide 480 and 576 downconversions, but not 720.

December 3rd, 2007, 03:12 PM	#5
Shawn Alyasiri Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 256	Good catch, agreed, and yes... It doesn't do 720 - I had received clarification from Panny engineering some time back about it - can't find the email, but it boiled down to something technical (obviously) in the development that lead to them leaving it out. Can't remember if it was heat, downconversion from the native chipset not creating good 720 images or what... I shouldn't speculate - but I thought it was along those lines. Eitherway - it's a 480/1080 camera (not including overseas) - still a darn good looking rig. I have two 2000's - they're great - and I shoot 1080 with them all the time, even though they're native 720 chipsets.

December 3rd, 2007, 09:05 PM	#8
Shawn Alyasiri Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 256	Just an FYI - Pretty sure AVC-Intra does both 720/1080... My understanding is that 720 Intra will be 1280x720 (where DVCPRO HD is 960x720) as Intra 50 or 100 1080 Intra will be 1440x1080 (Intra 50) or 1920x1080 (Intra 100) where DVCPROHD is 1280x1080. Looking forward to trying it - although I understand you need a beefier system to deal with the compression. Edius is set and ready for it (the settings above are listed in the project settings when you start an Edius project) - although you need a dongle license to play it - similar to P2 with them, etc. Per the other - I figured it was a marketing thing, expecting that a P2 Varicam would/will do both - a model 3000+. However, the word from engineering suggested otherwise. Either way - they're making cams that are hard to beat...