Panasonic P2 software for Mac

Eric Peltier · August 10th, 2007, 03:09 PM

https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro...cms/index.html

Not sure you guys saw this but Panasonic has released a Mac version of their P2 software.
Features: display, ingest, search, categorize, edit properties, play back, add text or voice memo, export, back up, archive, and restore footage.
works with QT 7.1.6 ( incompatible with QT 7.2 ).

thanks HDforindies for posting that up.

Leonard Levy · August 10th, 2007, 06:09 PM

Thanks eric,
is this the same software that is being discussed on DVXUser (P2CMS)?

"hallelujah!!.... New P2 software from Panny for both PC and Mac!"

I got confused reading that frankly, but i'm not a post guy so much.

Hey as a brevis owner, could you chime in on another post on this forum. I'd like to hear your experience

"Neutral Density filters for use with the HVX"

Roddy Jamieson · August 12th, 2007, 11:47 AM

Does not appear to be incompatible with QT 7.2, only 'not supported', they probably have not tested it yet.

Joe Lawry · August 12th, 2007, 02:55 PM

It works with 7.2 however on some clips there seems to be no audio when playing back in the program.

Joe

David Saraceno · August 13th, 2007, 09:42 AM

And you can directly import mxf video files, although not synced to audio

Brian Sargent · August 14th, 2007, 09:55 PM

You know I would be willing to bet that more than half of all HVX users are working on a mac. I know when you registered you had to indicate what platform you were using, so they certainly have a track on this info somewhere. I guess it takes 6months to a year to make it from the marketing dept. down to the engineering dept.

David Saraceno · August 15th, 2007, 10:34 AM

Try about 80 to 90 percent according to Barry Green.

Panasonic has clearly missed its market segment on many things Mac related.

Brian Sargent · August 15th, 2007, 10:44 AM

Holy smokes, that's unbelievable. I guess we'll be seeing more mac outta-the-gates first updates and maybe even some beta testing down the road.

David Saraceno · August 15th, 2007, 10:50 AM

Barry bases this on the attendance at his and Jarred's Bootcamp series and in talking to other HVX users.

It isn't scientific but a poll at another web site indicates the figures as close.

I don't mean to speak for him, so I hope he chimes in as well.

Barry Green · August 15th, 2007, 04:45 PM

My observation at BootCamps across the US is that about 95% of BootCamp attendees are using the Mac with their HVX. I've run that survey over and over and over. The lowest I've ever seen is 85% FCP, the average is 95%.

That's probably a disproportionate number of indie filmmakers though, and not necessarily representative of the industry as a whole.

Now, internationally my seminars show a more even split, more like 49% FCP and 49% Avid, and about 2% anything-else. The larger the organization, or the older the organization, the more likely they are to be using Avid; the newer the organization the more likely they are to be using FCP.

So David's probably accurate, at least 80% overall.

On DVInfo it seems like the 90% figure about holds accurate as well.

Brian Sargent · August 17th, 2007, 01:10 PM

I have intimate knowledge of one of the cable news channels and while they do use avid in the studio they have been buying macbooks for field operations. Their graphics dept is entirely mac of course, while the IT dept services mostly windows machines for the production staff. It'll be interesting to see how this works out as the network moves to a tapeless workflow. They just installed a huge IBM tape storage system in their vault so it won't be long before we find out.

TingSern Wong · August 18th, 2007, 01:13 AM

My 2 cents ...

It doesn't matter whether the video / audio is produced on Mac or PC platforms. Both sides have very capable tools (both h/w and s/w). Years back, the Mac is a superior platform because of good s/w being made available. But, the point is now moot since the PC has largely caught up with the Mac. Most of older video production houses are stuck with Mac - Avids or FCP. They can't migrate them to better platforms because of costs. Some are still using Beta SP.

What really matters is the skills of the people involved in doing the video / audio in that platform of choice. Without getting in the age old debate of whether Mac or PC is better, I have the fortunate experience of using both Mac and PC. I would say - there is NO difference at all. Both platforms have its strength, and both has its pitfalls.

Brian Sargent · August 18th, 2007, 06:53 AM

No one was making that argument. I use a PC at work while my home machine is a mac. I was simply saying that for my $6k it will be nice to enjoy the same support as the PC community.

My comment about convergence speaks more to the political side of the equation since it seems that vendor decisions are going to increasingly be made by the IT dept since they are assuming responsibilites that were previously outside of their domain so to speak i.e. they are now responsible for maintaining a footage library. Those decisions used to be made by a different dept.

Richard Alvarez · August 18th, 2007, 07:13 AM

A house with PC based Avids would certainly benefit from MAcbooks in the field, as their Avid software will run just fine on the Macs. Especially MC. I will be buying a MacbookPro this fall, and I cut on AVID PC in my studio.

TingSern Wong · August 18th, 2007, 11:10 AM

It is a bit unfortunate that Panasonic is a Windows based company. They make notebooks under the Toughbook brand as well. This might imply that support for PC / Windows will always be better positioned than the corresponding support on a Macintosh.

Just take a look at their support for upgrading P2Store is enough. I can't see how the P2Store can have their firmware upgraded via the Mac platform. The instructions and programs only run on Windows.

If 95% of the HVX200 users are on the Mac platform (as Barry has stated above), somebody better wake Panasonic up !!!

August 10th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#1
Eric Peltier Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Francisco/Paris Posts: 121	Panasonic P2 software for Mac - it's about time! https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro...cms/index.html Not sure you guys saw this but Panasonic has released a Mac version of their P2 software. Features: display, ingest, search, categorize, edit properties, play back, add text or voice memo, export, back up, archive, and restore footage. works with QT 7.1.6 ( incompatible with QT 7.2 ). thanks HDforindies for posting that up. __________________ Sights Sounds Stories www.tinboxtwo.com www.reardenstudios.com

August 12th, 2007, 11:47 AM	#3
Roddy Jamieson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen, UK Posts: 33	Does not appear to be incompatible with QT 7.2, only 'not supported', they probably have not tested it yet. __________________ Roddy Jamieson

August 14th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#6
Brian Sargent Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 69	It about time You know I would be willing to bet that more than half of all HVX users are working on a mac. I know when you registered you had to indicate what platform you were using, so they certainly have a track on this info somewhere. I guess it takes 6months to a year to make it from the marketing dept. down to the engineering dept.

August 10th, 2007, 06:09 PM	#2
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Thanks eric, is this the same software that is being discussed on DVXUser (P2CMS)? "hallelujah!!.... New P2 software from Panny for both PC and Mac!" I got confused reading that frankly, but i'm not a post guy so much. Hey as a brevis owner, could you chime in on another post on this forum. I'd like to hear your experience "Neutral Density filters for use with the HVX"

August 12th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#4
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	It works with 7.2 however on some clips there seems to be no audio when playing back in the program. Joe

August 13th, 2007, 09:42 AM	#5
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	And you can directly import mxf video files, although not synced to audio

August 15th, 2007, 10:34 AM	#7
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	Try about 80 to 90 percent according to Barry Green. Panasonic has clearly missed its market segment on many things Mac related.

August 15th, 2007, 10:44 AM	#8
Brian Sargent Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 69	Holy smokes, that's unbelievable. I guess we'll be seeing more mac outta-the-gates first updates and maybe even some beta testing down the road.

August 15th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#9
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	Barry bases this on the attendance at his and Jarred's Bootcamp series and in talking to other HVX users. It isn't scientific but a poll at another web site indicates the figures as close. I don't mean to speak for him, so I hope he chimes in as well.

August 15th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#10
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	My observation at BootCamps across the US is that about 95% of BootCamp attendees are using the Mac with their HVX. I've run that survey over and over and over. The lowest I've ever seen is 85% FCP, the average is 95%. That's probably a disproportionate number of indie filmmakers though, and not necessarily representative of the industry as a whole. Now, internationally my seminars show a more even split, more like 49% FCP and 49% Avid, and about 2% anything-else. The larger the organization, or the older the organization, the more likely they are to be using Avid; the newer the organization the more likely they are to be using FCP. So David's probably accurate, at least 80% overall. On DVInfo it seems like the 90% figure about holds accurate as well.

August 17th, 2007, 01:10 PM	#11
Brian Sargent Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 69	I have intimate knowledge of one of the cable news channels and while they do use avid in the studio they have been buying macbooks for field operations. Their graphics dept is entirely mac of course, while the IT dept services mostly windows machines for the production staff. It'll be interesting to see how this works out as the network moves to a tapeless workflow. They just installed a huge IBM tape storage system in their vault so it won't be long before we find out.

August 18th, 2007, 01:13 AM	#12
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	My 2 cents ... It doesn't matter whether the video / audio is produced on Mac or PC platforms. Both sides have very capable tools (both h/w and s/w). Years back, the Mac is a superior platform because of good s/w being made available. But, the point is now moot since the PC has largely caught up with the Mac. Most of older video production houses are stuck with Mac - Avids or FCP. They can't migrate them to better platforms because of costs. Some are still using Beta SP. What really matters is the skills of the people involved in doing the video / audio in that platform of choice. Without getting in the age old debate of whether Mac or PC is better, I have the fortunate experience of using both Mac and PC. I would say - there is NO difference at all. Both platforms have its strength, and both has its pitfalls.

August 18th, 2007, 06:53 AM	#13
Brian Sargent Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 69	No one was making that argument. I use a PC at work while my home machine is a mac. I was simply saying that for my $6k it will be nice to enjoy the same support as the PC community. My comment about convergence speaks more to the political side of the equation since it seems that vendor decisions are going to increasingly be made by the IT dept since they are assuming responsibilites that were previously outside of their domain so to speak i.e. they are now responsible for maintaining a footage library. Those decisions used to be made by a different dept.

August 18th, 2007, 07:13 AM	#14
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	A house with PC based Avids would certainly benefit from MAcbooks in the field, as their Avid software will run just fine on the Macs. Especially MC. I will be buying a MacbookPro this fall, and I cut on AVID PC in my studio.

August 18th, 2007, 11:10 AM	#15
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	It is a bit unfortunate that Panasonic is a Windows based company. They make notebooks under the Toughbook brand as well. This might imply that support for PC / Windows will always be better positioned than the corresponding support on a Macintosh. Just take a look at their support for upgrading P2Store is enough. I can't see how the P2Store can have their firmware upgraded via the Mac platform. The instructions and programs only run on Windows. If 95% of the HVX200 users are on the Mac platform (as Barry has stated above), somebody better wake Panasonic up !!!