How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage?

Larry Secrest · June 27th, 2016, 05:55 AM

Ok, so the myth of the better color space once the footage is downgraded to 1080 has been destroyed.
As far as sharpness, I really don't care increasing the sharpness at all, it's sharp enough. My problem with all those cheap 8 bits cam, I found a G 7 for $450, is not the sharpness but the color space. There is a local access TV station where I live that let us play with a RED Scarlet and I simply can't stand how little latitude I have with the G7. I've actually learned how to love the stills it produces with vintage lenses. I'm playing with some older Nikkors, but for video I've found out that it simply can't even come close to what a Canon XF 305 can do while recording to an outside recorder in 4:2:2, sure the G7 is 4K

Noa Put · June 27th, 2016, 06:50 AM

If latitude is so important to you and the ability to grade the footage why don't you buy a Black magic camera and shoot raw?

Gary Huff · June 27th, 2016, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Secrest

My problem with all those cheap 8 bits cam, I found a G 7 for $450, is not the sharpness but the color space. There is a local access TV station where I live that let us play with a RED Scarlet and I simply can't stand how little latitude I have with the G7.

What are you doing to the footage exactly? Adding saturation? Adjusting contrast?

Noa Put · June 27th, 2016, 07:29 AM

Larry, now I remember our discussion again from a while ago about the black magic camera's :) In that case just disregard my last suggestion, last thing you said about the G7 was that it had "more then enough quality for you to tell the stories you care about" and now that's not possible anymore because of the colorspace? What did you expect from downgrading 4:2:0 8 bit 4K to 1080p, that it would become gradable like raw footage?

Dave Morgan · July 2nd, 2016, 10:52 PM

I just got a G7, and it feels like you really have to nail your exposure on camera in 4K 100mbps My best results came from exporting the sequence as tiffs, then importing all the frames into light room. Then I could bring down the highlights and shadows a bit more than effects in premiere. Then re-exported and back to after effects, then exported as a Cineform 10bit video. then adobe media encoder for a youtube version.

Not something to do for just homevideos but if its something worth wild.

Noa Put · July 3rd, 2016, 02:11 AM

Would you not be able to do the same in resolve? I have tried it but looks to complicated to me but it would save doing those roundtrips between different programs.

June 27th, 2016, 05:55 AM	#16
Larry Secrest Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 404	Re: How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage? Ok, so the myth of the better color space once the footage is downgraded to 1080 has been destroyed. As far as sharpness, I really don't care increasing the sharpness at all, it's sharp enough. My problem with all those cheap 8 bits cam, I found a G 7 for $450, is not the sharpness but the color space. There is a local access TV station where I live that let us play with a RED Scarlet and I simply can't stand how little latitude I have with the G7. I've actually learned how to love the stills it produces with vintage lenses. I'm playing with some older Nikkors, but for video I've found out that it simply can't even come close to what a Canon XF 305 can do while recording to an outside recorder in 4:2:2, sure the G7 is 4K

June 27th, 2016, 06:50 AM	#17
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage? If latitude is so important to you and the ability to grade the footage why don't you buy a Black magic camera and shoot raw?

June 27th, 2016, 07:29 AM	#19
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage? Larry, now I remember our discussion again from a while ago about the black magic camera's :) In that case just disregard my last suggestion, last thing you said about the G7 was that it had "more then enough quality for you to tell the stories you care about" and now that's not possible anymore because of the colorspace? What did you expect from downgrading 4:2:0 8 bit 4K to 1080p, that it would become gradable like raw footage?

July 2nd, 2016, 10:52 PM	#20
Dave Morgan Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 293	Re: How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage? I just got a G7, and it feels like you really have to nail your exposure on camera in 4K 100mbps My best results came from exporting the sequence as tiffs, then importing all the frames into light room. Then I could bring down the highlights and shadows a bit more than effects in premiere. Then re-exported and back to after effects, then exported as a Cineform 10bit video. then adobe media encoder for a youtube version. Not something to do for just homevideos but if its something worth wild.

July 3rd, 2016, 02:11 AM	#21
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: How do you grade yourGH4/ G7 footage? Would you not be able to do the same in resolve? I have tried it but looks to complicated to me but it would save doing those roundtrips between different programs.