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September 23rd, 2015, 06:41 AM | #1 |
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GH4: new rig for run & gun while traveling
Hey guys,
I'm looking to get into (semi)pro videography and would like to do it from the main door: 4k. So, the quest for my perfect starting rig is telling me camera is Panasonic GH4 - not sure why but I'm kind of avoiding the Samsung NX1 Requirements are taking footage while traveling, mainly for/of: - nature: from landscapes to close ups on flowers, as well as animals sightwatching (not birds!) - city: architecture and monuments, general street shoots - museums - beaches and surf, possibly with close ups - interviews and events, possibly - of course, some stills as well! - night city shots, not really needed Main type of shooting will be run & gun handheld, with occasionally time to set a tripod. Budget, was 5000 €…………. Don't mind too much if the clips will come up with not a really smooth video, but definitely they have to be acceptable by the average TV watcher folk. BACKUP CAMERA As I would do this as a (semi)pro, I don’t have a chance to miss a shot, but also can’t buy myself a second GH4 for the “just-in-case”.... Choice is a MFT like a GH2 or a Canon APS like 550D, both around 300 € used LENSES Given those requirements, my pick would be: - Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm f/2.8 POWER O.I.S The all around, day and night (till light permits) - Panasonic Lumix G Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 or Panasonic LUMIX G VARIO 35-100mm f4.0-5.6 ASPH MEGA OIS? I'm not too much sure whethere the latter will be too much slow for my purposes but do I really need 35+ mm after dusk or for the insides? - A fast lens, mainly for dark interiors and interviews (what else?) like Olympus M.Zuiko 25mm f/1.8 - is it worth it for handheld shooting or will I need a shoulder stabilizer or a tripod eventually? - General backup/all around zoom lens (I'm out in the forest and something breaks up...): Panasonic Lumix G Vario 14-140mm f/3.5-5.6 POWER O.I.S. or Panasonic Lumix G Vario HD 14-140mm f/4-5.8 MEGA O.I.S. One of the two should suffer of issues while stabilizing...? Price of the lot (used items where possible): 1500-2000 EUR SPEEDBOOSTER Another point to consider is the Metabones Speedbooster - can you guys suggest the alternatives? I was kind of skipping it, mainly for autofocus (although it seems it got fixed) as well as vignetting. I would go for the ULTRA version - so I could backup my GH4 with a cheap used Canon APS-C like the 550d... full frame are expensive Same needs as above so: Wide angle zoom lenses: Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM Canon EF Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM Canon EF Telephoto lenses: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM or Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Canon EF Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO OS HSM Canon EF Fast lens: Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM Generic zoom lenses: Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Tamron 16-300mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD MACRO Canon EF Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM Canon EF Tamron 18-270mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD Canon EF Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 II DC OS HSM Canon EF Sigma 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM Contemporary Canon EF Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC Macro OS HSM Canon EF Price of the lot (used items where possible): 1700-2000 EUR AUDIO RODE VIDEO MIC PRO + windshield Lavalier: Audio-Technica ATR3350 + Bluetooth Transmitter+Receiver for wireless lav 300 € ACCESSORIES The weight is also a requirement, but I would prefer to save on here and invest more on lenses, for now: - Pro 160-LED which is very cheap, 25 € - Tripod A chinese one, maybe 100€? - what about mount an head on 3 walking sticks?!?!?! Gorillapod...? - Shoulder rig/Pistol grip Again, let's save on here: 200 € - Batteries: Patona 2A: are they worh it? How many to buy? Say 2+charger? 60 € MEMORY Made some math and 100Mbit/s recordings should fit 85 mins in a 64 gigs card. Confirm? So: 3x 64 GB SD card U3 3x HD 2Tb USB3 Kingston Mobile Lite G2 (move data SD -> HD with cell phone) 410 € LAPTOP For editing 4k videos, take 1000 € into account So my ticket for entering videography would be 5000-6000 € circa with accessories which meets my budget! Please, feel free to destroy me with your comments :) Mainly, I'm curious about: - GH4 vs NX1 vs alternatives for 4k video shooting run & gun handheld - Speedbooster: is it really worth it? - What about the lenses? - Accessories like stabilizers...? |
September 24th, 2015, 02:38 AM | #2 |
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Re: GH4: new rig for run & gun while traveling
Hello and welcome Enrico.
For a B camera I'd choose a LX100 or a GX8, in order to stay with 4K format. Your choice of lenses is good. However the 14-140mm is not as good as the 12-35 & 35-100 and not very useful. What about the 100-300 instead? Working with Speedboster means you have to buy other trademark lens may be boring. Personnaly, my best results was made with m4/3 lenses. What about the Panasonic 7-14mm if you need a wild angle? For the tripod, I'm not sure that you can have something good enough for 100€. You should invest something around 800€ for a good tripod (carbon fiber) and a video head, like Sachtler ACE-L. Cheers!
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Re: GH4: new rig for run & gun while traveling
Thanks Ronan!
For a B camera I'd choose a LX100 or a GX8, in order to stay with 4K format. Cheers![/QUOTE] GX8 = out of budget LX100 = I'll check it out Quote:
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BTW, found this article where Sky News (british news channel) cameramen Andy Portch is saying that he shots with a GH4 and a Gorillapod... News Shooter | Sky News cameraman Andy Portch reviews a year shooting news with the Panasonic GH4 of course he also has a Miller 1600 $ tripod, but I'll rather find an old affordable ball head to use with the Gorillapod like the Manfrotto MVH500 Ronan, what about filters to use with the daylight? |
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September 25th, 2015, 04:11 PM | #4 |
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Re: GH4: new rig for run & gun while traveling
I have the 12-35, 14-140 and 100-300 as well as the Metabones EF speedbooster with the tokina 11-16, sigma 17-50, and sigma 70-200.
When I'm doing run and gun and its daylight, I always default to the 14-140. It's a perfect range for NOT having to carry a bunch of other stuff with me. Now if it's a set or more produced piece, the 14-140 would be the dead last lens I'd use. |
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14-400 3.5-5.6 or 4-5.6? How about OIS and jittering??? And what about the speedbooster? Is it really needed? Or could I just stick with the 12-35 instead? |
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