GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices at DVinfo.net

Cees van Kempen · February 6th, 2014, 06:12 AM

I try to record with my GH3 to either a Ninja 2 or a NanoFlash.

Camera settings:
recording 1080p25
output setting 1080i or auto

Either device recognises the incoming signal as 1080p (pFs coming in over the i signal). But images turn out to be interlaced thrown in the progressive frames. Thus with terrible interlace artifact.

This does not happen with other cameras (FS700 and Gopro over hdmi).

Anything I am doing wrong?

Alan Halfhill · February 8th, 2014, 02:13 AM

Check the output settings for the HDMI. It is selectable.

Cees van Kempen · February 8th, 2014, 05:35 AM

Thanks Alan. I know. It just doesn't seem to work properly. I should set output at 1080i, so it will be dealt with as as pFs by the Ninja. Strange thing is that I got it working a few times!.

Like yesterday. I did some shooting at 720p50, then switched it to 1080p25 again (with 1080i output on GH3). I then switched off the Ninja and possibly also the camera, to check the shot on my computer and it was alright. Properly 1080p. Then put the HDD back in the Ninja, switched camera and Ninja on, faulty again. Since then I have tried every combination of order of switching from 720 to 1080 and switching on/off camera and Ninja to see if I could replicate what happened. But no succes, can't get it working properly again. It remains interlaced.

Issue is with both my GH3's. And also when I connect it to my Nanoflash. So to me it looks like a disfunctioning of the GH3's HDMI output.

William Hohauser · February 8th, 2014, 07:01 AM

I gave up trying to record with the HDMI output of my GH3 because of this. There is something off with how Panasonic programmed the HDMI output. It works great with my monitor but recorders are a crap shoot.

Bill Bruner · February 8th, 2014, 07:38 AM

This is part of the reason (along with peaking) that I will upgrade to the GH4 as soon as it is available. It is designed for external recording, which Panasonic didn't seem to take seriously with the GH2 and GH3.

Cees van Kempen · February 8th, 2014, 09:57 AM

Thanks William for your reply. Now at least I know it is not me. I'll stop trying.

Docea Marius · April 11th, 2014, 12:59 AM

Ninja Blade Panasonic GH3 does not work,Blade record only 50I not 25P,I tried all possible settings.nor those atoms gave no clear answer,gave a link on the internet ...but refers to something. HDMI output from GH3 is just interlace signal ??

Thanks

Chris Duczynski · April 12th, 2014, 08:09 PM

Docea,
Are you able to trigger the blade using stop/start on the GH3 or are you manually pressing record on the Blade ?
Also, is anyone use the GH3 or 4 and Ninja with a HDMI-SDI converter ?
I have one and will run a test to see what happens.

Phil Goetz · April 16th, 2014, 07:11 PM

GH3 is NOT clean HDMI out? I forget.

William Hohauser · April 17th, 2014, 03:33 PM

It's clean but the frame rate is not what you expect. 30p is OK but 24p comes out in an interlaced 60i signal that some devices can interpret, my Lilliput monitor for example, but not others, my Blackmagic Mini Recorder for example.

February 6th, 2014, 06:12 AM	#1
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices I try to record with my GH3 to either a Ninja 2 or a NanoFlash. Camera settings: recording 1080p25 output setting 1080i or auto Either device recognises the incoming signal as 1080p (pFs coming in over the i signal). But images turn out to be interlaced thrown in the progressive frames. Thus with terrible interlace artifact. This does not happen with other cameras (FS700 and Gopro over hdmi). Anything I am doing wrong? __________________ Cees van Kempen www.iwp-wildlife.com Last edited by Cees van Kempen; February 6th, 2014 at 02:53 PM.

February 8th, 2014, 02:13 AM	#2
Alan Halfhill Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sequim, WA Posts: 127	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices Check the output settings for the HDMI. It is selectable. __________________ Alan FrugalFilmmakers.com

February 8th, 2014, 05:35 AM	#3
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices Thanks Alan. I know. It just doesn't seem to work properly. I should set output at 1080i, so it will be dealt with as as pFs by the Ninja. Strange thing is that I got it working a few times!. Like yesterday. I did some shooting at 720p50, then switched it to 1080p25 again (with 1080i output on GH3). I then switched off the Ninja and possibly also the camera, to check the shot on my computer and it was alright. Properly 1080p. Then put the HDD back in the Ninja, switched camera and Ninja on, faulty again. Since then I have tried every combination of order of switching from 720 to 1080 and switching on/off camera and Ninja to see if I could replicate what happened. But no succes, can't get it working properly again. It remains interlaced. Issue is with both my GH3's. And also when I connect it to my Nanoflash. So to me it looks like a disfunctioning of the GH3's HDMI output. __________________ Cees van Kempen www.iwp-wildlife.com

February 8th, 2014, 07:01 AM	#4
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices I gave up trying to record with the HDMI output of my GH3 because of this. There is something off with how Panasonic programmed the HDMI output. It works great with my monitor but recorders are a crap shoot. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

February 8th, 2014, 07:38 AM	#5
Bill Bruner Major Player Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sunny California Posts: 513	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices This is part of the reason (along with peaking) that I will upgrade to the GH4 as soon as it is available. It is designed for external recording, which Panasonic didn't seem to take seriously with the GH2 and GH3.

February 8th, 2014, 09:57 AM	#6
Cees van Kempen Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nieuw-Vossemeer, The Netherlands Posts: 455	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices Thanks William for your reply. Now at least I know it is not me. I'll stop trying. __________________ Cees van Kempen www.iwp-wildlife.com

April 11th, 2014, 12:59 AM	#7
Docea Marius Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 175	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices Ninja Blade Panasonic GH3 does not work,Blade record only 50I not 25P,I tried all possible settings.nor those atoms gave no clear answer,gave a link on the internet ...but refers to something. HDMI output from GH3 is just interlace signal ?? Thanks

April 12th, 2014, 08:09 PM	#8
Chris Duczynski Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sydney Posts: 304	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices Docea, Are you able to trigger the blade using stop/start on the GH3 or are you manually pressing record on the Blade ? Also, is anyone use the GH3 or 4 and Ninja with a HDMI-SDI converter ? I have one and will run a test to see what happens.

April 16th, 2014, 07:11 PM	#9
Phil Goetz Austinite Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 550	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices GH3 is NOT clean HDMI out? I forget.

April 17th, 2014, 03:33 PM	#10
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: GH3 1080p not working with external recording devices It's clean but the frame rate is not what you expect. 30p is OK but 24p comes out in an interlaced 60i signal that some devices can interpret, my Lilliput monitor for example, but not others, my Blackmagic Mini Recorder for example. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation