One more advantage of the GH2 at DVinfo.net

Don Litten · July 5th, 2012, 09:46 AM

I don'r cover concerts. I don't have the equipment or experience for it and really have no interest in them...but my wife and I decided to go to a Beach Boys concert on Wednesday.
I'm sure this will be the last tour the remaining members will have and they're part of my youth.

The Venue is very strict about cameras, NO PROFESSIONAL CAMERAS. They check everyone.

I got the GH2 in with no questions and got 3 hours of high quality video (Which won't go on You Tube) that we can watch whenever we feel the urge.

Here is a frame grab.

Jeff Hinson · July 6th, 2012, 02:06 AM

Wow...part of my youth too. I used to play music professionally and have met the beach boys...but cant remember this ones name.....looks the same just a few more wrinkles.

How close were you for this shot and what lens were you using...settings?

thanks,
Jeff

Don Litten · July 6th, 2012, 02:58 AM

I was about 20 feet (3rd row). using the sanity5 patch and a Canon 1.8 50mm lens, 24 P, 1/60 standard -2 saturation -1, ISO 400 and exposing on the highlights by feel.. I think I was in ET mode then. I would swap in and out of that between songs.

The audio is usable but not great. I could have gotten an H4N and mic in but would have gotten nailed as soon as I started using it.

Here is another frame grab:

Jeff Hinson · July 6th, 2012, 04:07 AM

Great shots...
The left pic, second row,....you cropped this one right, since you have a fixed mm lens.

Can you tell me about the Sanity patch benefits? Ive updated to the new Panasonic patch, but have been afraid to load other patches.

Thanks for sharing,
Jeff

Don Litten · July 6th, 2012, 04:19 AM

Nope, none of them are cropped, just reduced to 800 x whatever JPEG. I moved around some. It was in ET mode though.

Sanity 5 IMO, is the most stable of the settings. Ralph did a great job on it. It's a fairly low bitrate (30 mb or so) doesn't lock up under stress and great IQ and color IF YOU AREN;T DOING ANY HEAVY GRADING.

My favorites and this changes

For night and extreme low light...Driftwood's CM Night.
For best quality Sedna AQ1
For Best all around LPowell's Flow Motion 2.02
For the most stable Sanity 5

Jeff Hinson · July 6th, 2012, 05:02 AM

Im assuming you have the latest panasonic high bit rate upgrade too, but prefer to use the other patches.

I will have to get the courage to try some of these, just afraid of screwing up my Gh2 factory settings.

Thanks for the patch info !!
Jeff

William Hohauser · July 6th, 2012, 09:24 AM

Sanity 5 is very stabile and the image improvement is subjectively about 10 to 20% better than the Panasonic settings. Panasonic should just buy the settings and make them an option however the range of SDHC cards you can reliably use is reduced.

There are other hacks that offer better motion with complex images and closer to SDI quality but they are best in very controlled shooting situations.

Don Litten · July 6th, 2012, 09:35 AM

What William said.

As far as usability, I'd rank Sanity 5 on top followed by Flow Motion 2.2 and I am testing some of the newest Cluster6 settings Driftwood came out with recently.

The others are good but specialty settings.

Jeff Hinson · July 6th, 2012, 03:08 PM

Don,
Id really like to see the video. Of course I understand your concerns about putting it up on the net.
a thought....would be to use Vimeo.com with a "password" for the dvinfo folks. You can really limit access and specify "no downloads" .
Still I guess it would be risky with all the hackers around.

jeff

Don Litten · July 6th, 2012, 03:25 PM

The whole thing is three hours long Jeff, but I am putting together a one song, 3 minute video that includes clips from the entire show. I'll put that up passworded when it's finished.

The big reason I don't want the world to see it is I sneaked the camera in and it's not fair to put it out in public. I know, others do it and I don't care about copyright, there are just certain lines I don't cross because I don't think it's right.

This isn't like the video's of politicians making ethnic remarks or cops dragging suspects down steps or the TSA braking laws (All of which I've published).

This is just a band making a living.

I'll let you know when I finish and give you the password.

Jeff Hinson · July 6th, 2012, 03:42 PM

I fully understand Don....
YOU are the star in this video. I like the Beach Boys music, but Im more interested in seeing your clips, not the beach boys. haha................don't tell them I said that. :>)

Jeff Harper · July 6th, 2012, 04:49 PM

I got mine into the Def Leppard concert, but focused on photos, as I was using a 45mm and I was too shaky. I felt really nervous holding a camera up for extended times; if I were caught I knew they'd snatch it. They barely let me in because it has a detachable lens, but I talked my way in, but the staff were just like hawks and more than one of them eyed my camera suspiciously so I had to keep a low profile. Got some decent pics, but I was so far away nothing great.

Jeff Hinson · July 7th, 2012, 02:05 AM

Don...
Jeff Harper's comment makes me wonder how YOU held the camera to take the 3hrs of footage. Did you sneak a monopod in too ? haha.

Jeff

Don Litten · July 7th, 2012, 09:58 AM

No, I thought about it but figured it would be a sure way to get escorted out.

I just braced my elbows on the seat arms and sometimes locked to my sides, and videoed.

I was hurting the last half hour,

Jeff Harper · July 7th, 2012, 10:26 AM

Everyone stood at my concert, the entire time. I had to hold my camera over my head to shoot, I got a few shaky 30 second clips. You were lucky to have been so close and to have been sitting!

July 5th, 2012, 09:46 AM	#1
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	One more advantage of the GH2 I don'r cover concerts. I don't have the equipment or experience for it and really have no interest in them...but my wife and I decided to go to a Beach Boys concert on Wednesday. I'm sure this will be the last tour the remaining members will have and they're part of my youth. The Venue is very strict about cameras, NO PROFESSIONAL CAMERAS. They check everyone. I got the GH2 in with no questions and got 3 hours of high quality video (Which won't go on You Tube) that we can watch whenever we feel the urge. Here is a frame grab. Attached Thumbnails

July 6th, 2012, 02:06 AM	#2
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Wow...part of my youth too. I used to play music professionally and have met the beach boys...but cant remember this ones name.....looks the same just a few more wrinkles. How close were you for this shot and what lens were you using...settings? thanks, Jeff __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 6th, 2012, 02:58 AM	#3
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 I was about 20 feet (3rd row). using the sanity5 patch and a Canon 1.8 50mm lens, 24 P, 1/60 standard -2 saturation -1, ISO 400 and exposing on the highlights by feel.. I think I was in ET mode then. I would swap in and out of that between songs. The audio is usable but not great. I could have gotten an H4N and mic in but would have gotten nailed as soon as I started using it. Here is another frame grab: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Don Litten; July 6th, 2012 at 04:00 AM.

July 6th, 2012, 04:07 AM	#4
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Great shots... The left pic, second row,....you cropped this one right, since you have a fixed mm lens. Can you tell me about the Sanity patch benefits? Ive updated to the new Panasonic patch, but have been afraid to load other patches. Thanks for sharing, Jeff __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 6th, 2012, 04:19 AM	#5
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Nope, none of them are cropped, just reduced to 800 x whatever JPEG. I moved around some. It was in ET mode though. Sanity 5 IMO, is the most stable of the settings. Ralph did a great job on it. It's a fairly low bitrate (30 mb or so) doesn't lock up under stress and great IQ and color IF YOU AREN;T DOING ANY HEAVY GRADING. My favorites and this changes For night and extreme low light...Driftwood's CM Night. For best quality Sedna AQ1 For Best all around LPowell's Flow Motion 2.02 For the most stable Sanity 5

July 6th, 2012, 05:02 AM	#6
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Im assuming you have the latest panasonic high bit rate upgrade too, but prefer to use the other patches. I will have to get the courage to try some of these, just afraid of screwing up my Gh2 factory settings. Thanks for the patch info !! Jeff __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 6th, 2012, 09:24 AM	#7
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Sanity 5 is very stabile and the image improvement is subjectively about 10 to 20% better than the Panasonic settings. Panasonic should just buy the settings and make them an option however the range of SDHC cards you can reliably use is reduced. There are other hacks that offer better motion with complex images and closer to SDI quality but they are best in very controlled shooting situations. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

July 6th, 2012, 09:35 AM	#8
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 What William said. As far as usability, I'd rank Sanity 5 on top followed by Flow Motion 2.2 and I am testing some of the newest Cluster6 settings Driftwood came out with recently. The others are good but specialty settings.

July 6th, 2012, 03:08 PM	#9
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Don, Id really like to see the video. Of course I understand your concerns about putting it up on the net. a thought....would be to use Vimeo.com with a "password" for the dvinfo folks. You can really limit access and specify "no downloads" . Still I guess it would be risky with all the hackers around. jeff __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 6th, 2012, 03:25 PM	#10
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 The whole thing is three hours long Jeff, but I am putting together a one song, 3 minute video that includes clips from the entire show. I'll put that up passworded when it's finished. The big reason I don't want the world to see it is I sneaked the camera in and it's not fair to put it out in public. I know, others do it and I don't care about copyright, there are just certain lines I don't cross because I don't think it's right. This isn't like the video's of politicians making ethnic remarks or cops dragging suspects down steps or the TSA braking laws (All of which I've published). This is just a band making a living. I'll let you know when I finish and give you the password.

July 6th, 2012, 03:42 PM	#11
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 I fully understand Don.... YOU are the star in this video. I like the Beach Boys music, but Im more interested in seeing your clips, not the beach boys. haha................don't tell them I said that. :>) __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 6th, 2012, 04:49 PM	#12
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 I got mine into the Def Leppard concert, but focused on photos, as I was using a 45mm and I was too shaky. I felt really nervous holding a camera up for extended times; if I were caught I knew they'd snatch it. They barely let me in because it has a detachable lens, but I talked my way in, but the staff were just like hawks and more than one of them eyed my camera suspiciously so I had to keep a low profile. Got some decent pics, but I was so far away nothing great.

July 7th, 2012, 02:05 AM	#13
Jeff Hinson Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Down South, IN Posts: 422	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Don... Jeff Harper's comment makes me wonder how YOU held the camera to take the 3hrs of footage. Did you sneak a monopod in too ? haha. Jeff __________________ Pana GH2, Canon XA10, Lenses 14-140 kit, 25mm f1.4 Pana,Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5 ,50mm Pentax http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/members/...on-albums.html

July 7th, 2012, 09:58 AM	#14
Don Litten Major Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Richmond Va Posts: 400	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 No, I thought about it but figured it would be a sure way to get escorted out. I just braced my elbows on the seat arms and sometimes locked to my sides, and videoed. I was hurting the last half hour,

July 7th, 2012, 10:26 AM	#15
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: One more advantage of the GH2 Everyone stood at my concert, the entire time. I had to hold my camera over my head to shoot, I got a few shaky 30 second clips. You were lucky to have been so close and to have been sitting!