EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work at DVinfo.net

Jeroen Wolf · December 19th, 2011, 01:51 PM

I find it incredible that the EX Tele function is not available when working with an external monitor. I lose so much functionality when working with my lenses- how come Panasonic didn't fix that in the 1.1 firmware update..?
Here you have a great function and it is useless if you want to use it with an external monitor... incomprehensible...

William Hohauser · December 19th, 2011, 05:38 PM

Focus Assist doesn't work either. Possibly too much processor work to output to a monitor and keep these functions.

Jeff Harper · December 19th, 2011, 05:58 PM

I find it much more disappointing that an external monitor will not work in 60i or 720 60p.

Dan Carter · December 19th, 2011, 07:43 PM

For an additional $3,500 the Panasonic AF100 will solve all these issues. How much can we expect from a camera body which costs less than most external monitors?

Jeff Harper · December 20th, 2011, 01:59 AM

My reasoning is that the HDMI output is a waste of a feature. For Panasonic to include the feature for use with 24p frame rate only, and more importantly not to list this in the specs in advertising is a real pisser. How many have purchased monitors to find they will not work in 60i or 720p? At least three people on this forum, including myself, have experienced this disappointment. It's not an unreasonable expectation, and it's not readily available information, which is even more irritating.

ETC is of limited use to begin with, and it is strange you cannot use focus assist, but to not be able to use a monitor in the most common frame rate of even 60i makes no sense to me.

There may be technical challenges or it was deliberately crippled and that's fine but their should be a an asterisk in the specs such as: HDMI out feature (available in 24p recording mode).

Call me crazy, but in my thinking it was not unreasonable when I purchased a monitor to think that what I got on my LCD would be available on the monitor.

Truth is very few GH2 users even use the HDMI feature, probably less than 1%, so the whole deal was likely an afterthought for Panasonic anyway.

Patrick Janka · December 20th, 2011, 09:04 AM

I was quite upset that they didn't fix the etc and 720p monitor issue in the firmware update. Very lame.

William Hohauser · December 20th, 2011, 10:29 AM

The difficulty of using the miniHDMI port on the camera in action situations is frustrating as it will disconnect without the cable falling out. I use it when shooting tripod interviews plus it's useful to playback footage for the client. Other than that, the camera is much easier to use without the HDMI attached.

Mark Slade · December 20th, 2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

My reasoning is that the HDMI output is a waste of a feature. For Panasonic to include the feature for use with 24p frame rate only, and more importantly not to list this in the specs in advertising is a real pisser.

Jeff.....am I mis-understanding what you are saying here??? I shoot in 1080/60. I use a sony monitor. Are you saying that it should not work or that the output to the monitor isn't the same as what I am shooting???

Mark

Jeff Harper · December 21st, 2011, 08:23 AM

Mark, it will only work when you shoot in 24p, period. Stinks, doesn't it?

Gordon Hoffman · December 21st, 2011, 09:11 AM

I suspect the reason Panasonic put a HDMI port on the camera is so the average consumer can plug it into thier HD tv and watch what they have recorded.

Gordon

Jeff Harper · December 21st, 2011, 02:01 PM

Gordon, since it is a consumer cam, you are undoubtedly correct, and your comment makes sense. In other words, we're lucky a monitor works at all!

Mark Slade · December 22nd, 2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Mark, it will only work when you shoot in 24p, period. Stinks, doesn't it?

Maybe I'm missing something here. I shoot 1080/60 and HDMI out works fine. Do it almost every day????

Mark

Patrick Janka · December 22nd, 2011, 11:59 PM

HDMI might work, but it won't send signal to a monitor.

Jeff Harper · December 23rd, 2011, 06:57 AM

Right Patrick. Mark, we're talking about using HDMI with an external monitor while recording, so we can see what we are shooting as it's shot, not viewing footage that we've recorded previously.

Mark Slade · January 1st, 2012, 10:20 PM

Then I must have a different camera than everyone else (or I still don't understand what ya'll are talking about).

I use a sony monitor while shooting(recording) every day. I shoot in 1080/60.
Now if you are talking about it not working with ETC....then no....that doesn't work for me.

December 19th, 2011, 01:51 PM	#1
Jeroen Wolf Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 355	EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work I find it incredible that the EX Tele function is not available when working with an external monitor. I lose so much functionality when working with my lenses- how come Panasonic didn't fix that in the 1.1 firmware update..? Here you have a great function and it is useless if you want to use it with an external monitor... incomprehensible... __________________ www.imaginevideo.nl Just published the second of my viral mini-doc series '100' https://youtu.be/ZqHFBrV-oOc

December 19th, 2011, 05:38 PM	#2
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work Focus Assist doesn't work either. Possibly too much processor work to output to a monitor and keep these functions. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

December 19th, 2011, 05:58 PM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work I find it much more disappointing that an external monitor will not work in 60i or 720 60p.

December 19th, 2011, 07:43 PM	#4
Dan Carter Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 366	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work For an additional $3,500 the Panasonic AF100 will solve all these issues. How much can we expect from a camera body which costs less than most external monitors? __________________ Dan Carter: HDC-TM700, DMC-GH2 and DMC-GH3, Sony RX100II and RX10, Final Cut Pro X http://www.vimeo.com/user582748

December 20th, 2011, 01:59 AM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work My reasoning is that the HDMI output is a waste of a feature. For Panasonic to include the feature for use with 24p frame rate only, and more importantly not to list this in the specs in advertising is a real pisser. How many have purchased monitors to find they will not work in 60i or 720p? At least three people on this forum, including myself, have experienced this disappointment. It's not an unreasonable expectation, and it's not readily available information, which is even more irritating. ETC is of limited use to begin with, and it is strange you cannot use focus assist, but to not be able to use a monitor in the most common frame rate of even 60i makes no sense to me. There may be technical challenges or it was deliberately crippled and that's fine but their should be a an asterisk in the specs such as: HDMI out feature (available in 24p recording mode). Call me crazy, but in my thinking it was not unreasonable when I purchased a monitor to think that what I got on my LCD would be available on the monitor. Truth is very few GH2 users even use the HDMI feature, probably less than 1%, so the whole deal was likely an afterthought for Panasonic anyway.

December 20th, 2011, 09:04 AM	#6
Patrick Janka Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 623	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work I was quite upset that they didn't fix the etc and 720p monitor issue in the firmware update. Very lame.

December 20th, 2011, 10:29 AM	#7
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work The difficulty of using the miniHDMI port on the camera in action situations is frustrating as it will disconnect without the cable falling out. I use it when shooting tripod interviews plus it's useful to playback footage for the client. Other than that, the camera is much easier to use without the HDMI attached. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

December 21st, 2011, 08:23 AM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work Mark, it will only work when you shoot in 24p, period. Stinks, doesn't it?

December 21st, 2011, 09:11 AM	#10
Gordon Hoffman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pincher Creek, Alberta Canada Posts: 619	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work I suspect the reason Panasonic put a HDMI port on the camera is so the average consumer can plug it into thier HD tv and watch what they have recorded. Gordon

December 21st, 2011, 02:01 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work Gordon, since it is a consumer cam, you are undoubtedly correct, and your comment makes sense. In other words, we're lucky a monitor works at all!

December 22nd, 2011, 11:59 PM	#13
Patrick Janka Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 623	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work HDMI might work, but it won't send signal to a monitor.

December 23rd, 2011, 06:57 AM	#14
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work Right Patrick. Mark, we're talking about using HDMI with an external monitor while recording, so we can see what we are shooting as it's shot, not viewing footage that we've recorded previously.

January 1st, 2012, 10:20 PM	#15
Mark Slade Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 121	Re: EX Tele and external monitor doesn't work Then I must have a different camera than everyone else (or I still don't understand what ya'll are talking about). I use a sony monitor while shooting(recording) every day. I shoot in 1080/60. Now if you are talking about it not working with ETC....then no....that doesn't work for me.