Sample clips discussion

Sami Sanpakkila · March 19th, 2011, 08:17 AM

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Jeff Harper · March 19th, 2011, 09:13 AM

Dim light? No problem for the GH1, even at 100 ISO!

Jim Forrest · March 20th, 2011, 08:24 AM

Vulture Mine----Very nicely done. Shows you know how to use the camera skillfully. Great subject matter.
Couple of questions...
How did you get the push in's? Did you use a slidder or just use your NLE software to do a push?
Did you shoot in the Cinema Mode 24p?

Jim Forrest · March 20th, 2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Dim light? No problem for the GH1, even at 100 ISO!

Low light videography using the Panasonic GH1 with Canon lenses on Vimeo

Nice Jeff. Glad you got the lenses you need.

Jeff Harper · March 20th, 2011, 10:55 AM

Thanks Jim. Camera work was pretty bad, but it wasnt' shot with the intention to post.

In all honesty the video is meaningless unless you were there to see how dark it actually was. Except for the 20mm, the images are brighter than what I actually saw...It was like having night goggles on or something, not quite that dramatic, but close.

The lenses are especially important to me since I have a GH1, and can't run at a high ISO as with the GH2.

Dan Carter · March 22nd, 2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Forrest

Vulture Mine----Very nicely done. Shows you know how to use the camera skillfully. Great subject matter.
Couple of questions...
How did you get the push in's? Did you use a slidder or just use your NLE software to do a push?
Did you shoot in the Cinema Mode 24p?

Thank you Jim.

Small zooms were done with NLE. All clips were 1080/60i.

Thanks for watching.

William Hohauser · April 3rd, 2011, 07:15 PM

Shot with the GH2 / 20mm pancake lens / 24p / manual everything / hand-held. Modest color correction, mostly gamma and white limit.

All I can say is that I need the OIS on the 14-140mm if I continue to do hand-held.

Jeff Harper · April 3rd, 2011, 07:24 PM

William, you didn't use a ND filter, it appears. Was that intentional, or do you just not like them? Or did you use one and I am mistaken?

William Hohauser · April 3rd, 2011, 08:58 PM

Forgot to add that I had a cheap Tiffen circular polarizer on the entire time. An ND filter would have upped the DOF a bit but I didn't want the background entirely indistinct, perhaps that was a mistake.

The auto white balance tended to blue. Later that day I did a set of photos with the same lens/filter combination and the camera entirely automatic. Some excellent photos came out of that. The camera is a great still camera, no question about that.

This was an experiment to work with the 20mm hand held without a camera brace. The next time I'll use the Spiderbrace I have and see if the nervous shake that regular broadcast video cameras restrict my hands from doing is reduced. Otherwise the 20mm goes with a tripod from now on. Focusing is a hassle with the Spiderbrace unless the Assist function is on. I did a short experimental shoot with the 20mm and some actors improving a skit. The result was way too shaky if I walked with the camera. The 14-140mm is much better for hand held since it has the OIS but the camera becomes too heavy for comfortable video shooting without a brace.

Jeff Harper · April 4th, 2011, 03:55 AM

Hi William, I find the GH2 magnifies every little movement because of it's small size, much trickier to use hand-held.

William Hohauser · April 4th, 2011, 04:33 PM

That's a fact with palmcorders as well although the SLR form factor magnifies it more. A shoulder brace really helps.

Jeff Harper · April 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM

Shot with GH2 and GH1, clips slowed down to 50% or more.

Jim Forrest · April 6th, 2011, 06:54 AM

Nice color and composition Jeff. I assume you did the slo mo in your editing program.
Looks good

Jeff Harper · April 6th, 2011, 07:34 AM

Jim, I believe it looks outstanding, phenomenal. Auto white balance? Wow. The skin tones? Beautiful, IMO.

The shot of the bride and the young man with braids shows such amazing color.

What blew me away most was that the shot of the brides dress getting ready was actually ruined (IMO)when another video guy turned on his light. With available light it looked SO much better.

This is the benefit of the fast lenses, gorgeous footage using available light.

I'm going to run three cameras for the reception this week and I will keep the Canon 50mm f/1.4 on a tripod at all times on one camera just to get the amazing shots, though if the venue is large enough I might try out the 85mm f/1.2 as well.

Jeff Harper · April 6th, 2011, 07:36 AM

Yes, Jim, I did the slow mo in Vegas. No tricks, just stretched it out. I've never had footage that I could slow down to that degree and have it retain such quality. Amazing camera, really. At least in the right hands. Hopefull I will learn to use it properly.

March 19th, 2011, 08:17 AM	#16
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March 19th, 2011, 09:13 AM	#17
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	GH1 using Canon/Panasonic lenses Dim light? No problem for the GH1, even at 100 ISO! Low light videography using the Panasonic GH1 with Canon lenses on Vimeo __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 20th, 2011, 08:24 AM	#18
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Re: Sample clips discussion Vulture Mine----Very nicely done. Shows you know how to use the camera skillfully. Great subject matter. Couple of questions... How did you get the push in's? Did you use a slidder or just use your NLE software to do a push? Did you shoot in the Cinema Mode 24p?

March 20th, 2011, 10:55 AM	#20
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion Thanks Jim. Camera work was pretty bad, but it wasnt' shot with the intention to post. In all honesty the video is meaningless unless you were there to see how dark it actually was. Except for the 20mm, the images are brighter than what I actually saw...It was like having night goggles on or something, not quite that dramatic, but close. The lenses are especially important to me since I have a GH1, and can't run at a high ISO as with the GH2. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 3rd, 2011, 07:15 PM	#22
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: Sample clips discussion Shot with the GH2 / 20mm pancake lens / 24p / manual everything / hand-held. Modest color correction, mostly gamma and white limit. All I can say is that I need the OIS on the 14-140mm if I continue to do hand-held. 6th Street and Avenue B Garden Spring 2011 on Vimeo __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

April 3rd, 2011, 07:24 PM	#23
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion William, you didn't use a ND filter, it appears. Was that intentional, or do you just not like them? Or did you use one and I am mistaken? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 3rd, 2011, 08:58 PM	#24
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: Sample clips discussion Forgot to add that I had a cheap Tiffen circular polarizer on the entire time. An ND filter would have upped the DOF a bit but I didn't want the background entirely indistinct, perhaps that was a mistake. The auto white balance tended to blue. Later that day I did a set of photos with the same lens/filter combination and the camera entirely automatic. Some excellent photos came out of that. The camera is a great still camera, no question about that. This was an experiment to work with the 20mm hand held without a camera brace. The next time I'll use the Spiderbrace I have and see if the nervous shake that regular broadcast video cameras restrict my hands from doing is reduced. Otherwise the 20mm goes with a tripod from now on. Focusing is a hassle with the Spiderbrace unless the Assist function is on. I did a short experimental shoot with the 20mm and some actors improving a skit. The result was way too shaky if I walked with the camera. The 14-140mm is much better for hand held since it has the OIS but the camera becomes too heavy for comfortable video shooting without a brace. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

April 4th, 2011, 03:55 AM	#25
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion Hi William, I find the GH2 magnifies every little movement because of it's small size, much trickier to use hand-held. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 4th, 2011, 04:33 PM	#26
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	Re: Sample clips discussion That's a fact with palmcorders as well although the SLR form factor magnifies it more. A shoulder brace really helps. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

April 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM	#27
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion Shot with GH2 and GH1, clips slowed down to 50% or more. GH2 & GH1 Wedding Clips - Slow Motion Test - Miguel's Wedding - on Vimeo __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 6th, 2011, 06:54 AM	#28
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Re: Sample clips discussion Nice color and composition Jeff. I assume you did the slo mo in your editing program. Looks good

April 6th, 2011, 07:34 AM	#29
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion Jim, I believe it looks outstanding, phenomenal. Auto white balance? Wow. The skin tones? Beautiful, IMO. The shot of the bride and the young man with braids shows such amazing color. What blew me away most was that the shot of the brides dress getting ready was actually ruined (IMO)when another video guy turned on his light. With available light it looked SO much better. This is the benefit of the fast lenses, gorgeous footage using available light. I'm going to run three cameras for the reception this week and I will keep the Canon 50mm f/1.4 on a tripod at all times on one camera just to get the amazing shots, though if the venue is large enough I might try out the 85mm f/1.2 as well. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 6th, 2011, 07:36 AM	#30
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Sample clips discussion Yes, Jim, I did the slow mo in Vegas. No tricks, just stretched it out. I've never had footage that I could slow down to that degree and have it retain such quality. Amazing camera, really. At least in the right hands. Hopefull I will learn to use it properly. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."