Editing GH1 and JVC HM100 Footage? at DVinfo.net

Dave Mercer · December 23rd, 2010, 03:05 PM

I'm looking at picking up a small camcorder to use alongside/intercut with my GH1 (soon to be GH2).

The obvious choice is the Pana HMC40, but sometimes I need to deliver to my main client in PAL format (50i specifically, although I just delivered in 25P and they were okay with it). That said, I wouldn't mind being able to have the option of shooting for broadcasters in the Americas.

So the HMC40 not being NTSC/PAL switchable is a strike against it unfortunately. The HM100, on the other hand, is switchable.

I currently transcode the .mts files to Prores and edit in FCP.

I'll also post this on the HM100 board.

Thanks all!

Guy McLoughlin · December 23rd, 2010, 04:05 PM

What about the Panasonic HMC-151 which is switchable between PAL and NTSC ?

http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales...AG-HMC151E.pdf

Brian Luce · December 24th, 2010, 09:41 AM

Wow, GH2/GH1 are pretty small and cheap already. You're looking for something around 3-400 bucks?

Dave Mercer · December 24th, 2010, 09:46 AM

151 is too bulky ... and expensive.

I prefer small, discrete cameras when working alone. And I'd like to be able to fit both the GH1, a few lenses, and a handycam like the HM100 in my camera backpack.

That said, last night I looked into the HMC40, and though it doesn't have PAL framerates, it looks to give sharper images that might match the GH1/GH2 a bit better. And of course, editing would be a sinch.

Any experience with the HMC40?

Jim Forrest · December 30th, 2010, 11:05 AM

Yes I had one and the image was great. It matched my 7D when I had one.
I no longer have the AG-HMC40. It has a great lens for a camera in that price range. However it felt kinda cheaply made out of plastic. I sure it would be fine in most situations but not in a rugged environment.
I got rid of it for that reason.

Dave Mercer · December 30th, 2010, 04:05 PM

Thanks for the input Jim. That's very helpful. So it might work well as a B cam to the GH2 (as and when needed).

Jim Forrest · December 31st, 2010, 08:51 AM

Yes I would think so.

Dan Thomson · January 1st, 2011, 09:05 AM

The JVC HM100 outputs both .mov or .mp4 files. To place into Final Cut Pro use the .mov. An empty timeline will configure to the selected frame rate, size and encoder. With the HM100 I use a 720p60 setting so the timeline sequence ends up being 720p60 and XDCAM EX Codec.

The GH2 outputs in AVCHD at various framerates. You should match the framerate and size to the HM100 and transcode the AVCHD footage from your GH2 in compressor or quicktime to match the HM100 (or go the other way).

The third alternative is to make them both PRORES.

The key to easy editing is matching the framerate and size. You can also just drop both clips into a timeline and it will conform the clips but this means lots of rendering.

Dan

Dave Mercer · January 1st, 2011, 10:35 AM

I think Prores might be the best/easiest way, despite having to transcode both HM100 and GH2 files ...

Many thanks for that!

December 23rd, 2010, 03:05 PM	#1
Dave Mercer Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lake Atitlan, Guatemala Posts: 346	Editing GH1 and JVC HM100 Footage? I'm looking at picking up a small camcorder to use alongside/intercut with my GH1 (soon to be GH2). The obvious choice is the Pana HMC40, but sometimes I need to deliver to my main client in PAL format (50i specifically, although I just delivered in 25P and they were okay with it). That said, I wouldn't mind being able to have the option of shooting for broadcasters in the Americas. So the HMC40 not being NTSC/PAL switchable is a strike against it unfortunately. The HM100, on the other hand, is switchable. I currently transcode the .mts files to Prores and edit in FCP. I'll also post this on the HM100 board. Thanks all!

January 1st, 2011, 09:05 AM	#8
Dan Thomson Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: sudbury, canada Posts: 25	HM100 and FCP timeline The JVC HM100 outputs both .mov or .mp4 files. To place into Final Cut Pro use the .mov. An empty timeline will configure to the selected frame rate, size and encoder. With the HM100 I use a 720p60 setting so the timeline sequence ends up being 720p60 and XDCAM EX Codec. The GH2 outputs in AVCHD at various framerates. You should match the framerate and size to the HM100 and transcode the AVCHD footage from your GH2 in compressor or quicktime to match the HM100 (or go the other way). The third alternative is to make them both PRORES. The key to easy editing is matching the framerate and size. You can also just drop both clips into a timeline and it will conform the clips but this means lots of rendering. Dan

December 23rd, 2010, 04:05 PM	#2
Guy McLoughlin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 287	What about the Panasonic HMC-151 which is switchable between PAL and NTSC ? http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/sales...AG-HMC151E.pdf

December 24th, 2010, 09:41 AM	#3
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Wow, GH2/GH1 are pretty small and cheap already. You're looking for something around 3-400 bucks?

December 24th, 2010, 09:46 AM	#4
Dave Mercer Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lake Atitlan, Guatemala Posts: 346	151 is too bulky ... and expensive. I prefer small, discrete cameras when working alone. And I'd like to be able to fit both the GH1, a few lenses, and a handycam like the HM100 in my camera backpack. That said, last night I looked into the HMC40, and though it doesn't have PAL framerates, it looks to give sharper images that might match the GH1/GH2 a bit better. And of course, editing would be a sinch. Any experience with the HMC40?

December 30th, 2010, 11:05 AM	#5
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Yes I had one and the image was great. It matched my 7D when I had one. I no longer have the AG-HMC40. It has a great lens for a camera in that price range. However it felt kinda cheaply made out of plastic. I sure it would be fine in most situations but not in a rugged environment. I got rid of it for that reason.

December 30th, 2010, 04:05 PM	#6
Dave Mercer Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lake Atitlan, Guatemala Posts: 346	Thanks for the input Jim. That's very helpful. So it might work well as a B cam to the GH2 (as and when needed).

December 31st, 2010, 08:51 AM	#7
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Yes I would think so.

January 1st, 2011, 10:35 AM	#9
Dave Mercer Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lake Atitlan, Guatemala Posts: 346	I think Prores might be the best/easiest way, despite having to transcode both HM100 and GH2 files ... Many thanks for that!