I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance at DVinfo.net

Kris Zimbelman · March 12th, 2021, 01:32 PM

I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance at an outdoor pavilion tomorrow. Should I shoot this in 4K 60 P due to the swift movement of the dancers and possibly some artistic license in slowing that down on the timeline? Or should I go for a more cinematic look by shooting it in 24 P? There should be plenty of light so that won't be a problem.

Paul R Johnson · March 12th, 2021, 02:21 PM

This is a call for the client. Offer both pathways and let them choose. From experience, Irish dance is extremely rigid and controlled. The things they do with their lower body are vitally important. You might find that the artistic approach prevents the viewer seeing the things that get points in their competitions and judging - you hear them yelling about batters and trembles and the noises the heels make. If these cannot be seen because of motion blur, this could be a benefit or a real showstopper. On the other hand, this might actually hide issues, which could be an advantage. What is for certain is you cannot guess. With the emphasis so clearly on the lower half of the body, getting it wrong can be really bad.

Pete Cofrancesco · March 12th, 2021, 02:40 PM

I shoot all events in 30p. You can film 60p if you want to be able to slow it down and repurpose clips of the performance for things like promotional trailers. Usually when someone hires you to video a staged performance they want it to look like it did. 24p in my view should be reserved creative projects where it makes sense to try to emulate the look of filmed cinema movies. I think there is a misconception that 24p has some sort on intrinsic value when it doesn't.

Bob Hart · March 16th, 2021, 11:48 AM

Don't forget a close-up on the feet. Be patient with this clip. There is along blackout between the band and the dancers.

March 12th, 2021, 01:32 PM	#1
Kris Zimbelman Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmond Posts: 139	I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance at an outdoor pavilion tomorrow. Should I shoot this in 4K 60 P due to the swift movement of the dancers and possibly some artistic license in slowing that down on the timeline? Or should I go for a more cinematic look by shooting it in 24 P? There should be plenty of light so that won't be a problem. __________________ 73003

March 12th, 2021, 02:21 PM	#2
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,044	Re: I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance This is a call for the client. Offer both pathways and let them choose. From experience, Irish dance is extremely rigid and controlled. The things they do with their lower body are vitally important. You might find that the artistic approach prevents the viewer seeing the things that get points in their competitions and judging - you hear them yelling about batters and trembles and the noises the heels make. If these cannot be seen because of motion blur, this could be a benefit or a real showstopper. On the other hand, this might actually hide issues, which could be an advantage. What is for certain is you cannot guess. With the emphasis so clearly on the lower half of the body, getting it wrong can be really bad.

March 12th, 2021, 02:40 PM	#3
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	Re: I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance I shoot all events in 30p. You can film 60p if you want to be able to slow it down and repurpose clips of the performance for things like promotional trailers. Usually when someone hires you to video a staged performance they want it to look like it did. 24p in my view should be reserved creative projects where it makes sense to try to emulate the look of filmed cinema movies. I think there is a misconception that 24p has some sort on intrinsic value when it doesn't.

March 16th, 2021, 11:48 AM	#4
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Re: I'm going to be shooting some Irish Riverdance Don't forget a close-up on the feet. Be patient with this clip. There is along blackout between the band and the dancers. JARRAH CELTS IRISH DANCERS CATHY TRAVERS JULL STREET MALL SAMPLER - YouTube Last edited by Bob Hart; March 16th, 2021 at 12:02 PM. Reason: error