Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video?

Chris Harding · December 20th, 2016, 07:05 PM

Hi Ron

My mate Scott in your part of the world is using an FZ2500 with a varizoom unit and says it works perfectly for video. I suspect if that works then the Libec would work too.

Ron Evans · December 20th, 2016, 07:15 PM

That is great as I am thinking of using instead of my AX100 as the FZ2500 can also be controlled with WiFi app that is more comprehensive than the Sony PlayMemories control. Yes I am sure the libec controller I have can be set for Sony or Panasonic and will likely have the same protocol as the Varizoom. I am up for buying what ever works anyway as the main thing is to use like a normal camcorder on a tripod as well as a remote controlled with WiFi.

Ron Evans

Chris Harding · December 20th, 2016, 08:16 PM

I also have FZ1000's and they seem to work well with the Smartphone App ...I haven't yet tried it but I think you can also zoom with the App via wifi so that is also a remote option ..I must admit I prefer physical controls as I find "swiping" with fingers sometimes doesn't work ...give me a rocker switch any day!!

Our FZ2500's have at long last arrived in Australia YAY!! Picking mine up after lunch today!!

Roger Gunkel · December 21st, 2016, 04:50 AM

Hi Chris,

The FZ1000 does indeed have zoom control from the app in addition to being able to adjust gain while filming and many other adjustable parameters. I often use my second FZ1000 as a B cam, and can monitor the video via the app and change zoom etc to add variation to the shot in addition to the cropping in post. I'm sure the 2000/25000 does exactly the same.

Using the remote gives you some of the flexibility of a second shooter on the B cam although you can't physically pan or tilt. You can of course still crop to pans and tilts from wide angle 4K footage in post, and still be able to control things like white balance, focus, zoom and exposure just by using the app live. For a solo shooter it's a godsend.

Roger

Chris Harding · December 21st, 2016, 06:29 AM

Hi Roger

Yes I know but I don't really need it for weddings as I have the main camera and audio XLR module on the tripod usually in the aisle and my B-Cam is handheld so I can get to zoom controls easily. The new 2500 has awesome push button slow zooms too (variable speed) which is perfect for weddings!!

Now, I can see the app working for me when I'm doing a multi camera live broadcast as the cams are all fixed. The software allows me to zoom any camera but being able to do an optical zoom is better as I'm normally at the computer and remote control would be a nice add-on. One assumes you could also use a tablet .. that would be neat next to a computer without having to disturb guests to adjust camera controls.

I'll have to check the app to see if it now includes activation of the slow zoom feature the FZ2500 has

Roger Gunkel · December 21st, 2016, 02:54 PM

Chris, I use the Panny app on my iPad, my Android pad and an older Samsung android phone that is just used for camera monitoring and control.

Roger

Chris Harding · December 21st, 2016, 08:19 PM

Thanks Roger

I'll put the app on my tablet and give it a whirl. Still wading thru the huge 2500 advanced manual ..this camera seems like a 747 flight deck compared to the 1000! So many new features that are awesome!!

I'm sure it will be on your wish list ....you will love the Fn button slow zooms for weddings they are awesome as is the touch screen focus and also touch screen exposure comp if you have a backlit situation!

Roger Gunkel · December 22nd, 2016, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Harding

Thanks Roger

I'll put the app on my tablet and give it a whirl. Still wading thru the huge 2500 advanced manual ..this camera seems like a 747 flight deck compared to the 1000! So many new features that are awesome!!

I'm sure it will be on your wish list ....you will love the Fn button slow zooms for weddings they are awesome as is the touch screen focus and also touch screen exposure comp if you have a backlit situation!

I'll probably postpone my purchase until the Spring when we have a lot of weddings booked. I've already overspent this year as the photographic side has taken off with almost all video weddings being with the joint photo package and a big increase in photo only weddings. We invested in the second FZ1000 for Claire early in the year, plus a Canon DSLR for her, 5 new Canon lenses, two additional GoPro clones, 2 additional voice recorders and various mics and ancilliaries and a second set of studio lights. We now have identical kit for double weddings. Of course I will also have to buy two FZ2000s rather than one :-(

Roger

Chris Harding · December 22nd, 2016, 06:26 AM

Fair enough ..doesn't make sense to have one in the freezing cold when you really won't even use it!! Being in the Southern Hemisphere it's full blown Summer (42 degrees Celcius yesterday) but again a quiet period over the Festive Season. Our first wedding is actually New Years Day 2017 and the couple are flying out from Liverpool to get married on the beach in the sun!! I'm doing a live broadcast too on the FZ2500 so I'll send you the link later!

In the meantime hope you and Claire have a great Christmas!!

Roger Gunkel · December 22nd, 2016, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Harding

Fair enough ..doesn't make sense to have one in the freezing cold when you really won't even use it!! Being in the Southern Hemisphere it's full blown Summer (42 degrees Celcius yesterday) but again a quiet period over the Festive Season. Our first wedding is actually New Years Day 2017 and the couple are flying out from Liverpool to get married on the beach in the sun!! I'm doing a live broadcast too on the FZ2500 so I'll send you the link later!

In the meantime hope you and Claire have a great Christmas!!

We might do the beach on New Year's Day with the dog, but it will probably be below zero! I'll look forward to seeing how your live broadcast goes with the new camera.

Thanks for the Christmas wishes, it will be our first Christmas Day off for 12 years as we are normally doing a music show, but gave it a miss this year.

All the best for Christmas and the New Year to you and yours :-)

Roger

Chris Harding · December 22nd, 2016, 08:06 AM

Thanks Roger

Don't envy the UK weather at this time of the year!! We are actually "cheating" on this live broadcast due to the time difference between the UK and here so we will record in the afternoon and then stream a delayed broadcast 4 hours later otherwise the poor folks in Liverpool will have to get up so early in the morning in the freezing cold to watch it. We are planning to do it direct from the camera at mid-day UK time so they can warm up a bit first and not have to roll out of bed at sunrise!!

The event page is at :
https://livestream.com/videohouse/events/6741648

Larry Johnson · December 22nd, 2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Griffiths

My daughter got me the only FZ2500 in Perth a few days ago ( sorry Chris)] It's really outstanding but for this thread it seems there is a 40 x zoom available but only for 8 mb files, if this is all you want then you can't ask for more at this price or any other! I've not tested it but they claim no deterioration in quality. so far I'm really impressed by this camera, exceeding my expectations but I need to spend more time finding out what it's capable of.

Congrats Mike! I almost pulled the trigger on one through Adorama, but didn't see an option to include V-log and the salesman didn't know either. Is V-log an available add on as was suggested in pre-reviews? Can it be added later? How does one purchase and download it?

Edit: ordered one.

Mike Griffiths · December 24th, 2016, 08:02 AM

I got my FZ2500 from Australia while on holiday in Phuket, Thailand. I played with it, not seriously, but I'm posting some clips for you to see.Simply because these cameras are difficult to get hold of and you might just want to take a look. It seems to have a 40x optical extension in FHD mode, just trired one shot. Please do not comment on the videography- I was on holiday!. I'm impressed with the camera, really easy to use. I tried the 4K JPEG setting it really works! Now, Like Chris, I have to master the 270 pages on the manual.
All 1080p, MOV 50fps 100mbps. Remember YT will degrade the image.
You can watch it here. THE MIC ON THE BOAT WAS THE STEREO VIDEO MIC AND IT WAS THE OPTICAL EXTENDER NOT THE DIGITAL

Chris Harding · December 24th, 2016, 08:10 AM

Hi Mike

They are truly awesome cameras are they not? I haven't played with mine yet cos I was busy making a handheld rig for mine. They take a lot of beating!!

Well I have 3 x FZ's now .. 2 xFZ1000 and 1 x FZ2500 .... I must give the 100mbps mode a whirl too ..Have you tried it in Intra Mode (200mbps) ...Even at 20mbps it's a stunning image!!

Mike Griffiths · December 26th, 2016, 09:55 PM

Does anyone know what the significance of the zoom display bar is when it turns blue at the end? The display indicates the focal length in 35mm equivalents and when on optical zoom this can exceed 1000 mm but the last ? 20% of the display is blue and I can't find out why. Does it indicate a deterioration in quality? I've searched the advanced manual and there seems to be no refernce to it there.

December 20th, 2016, 07:05 PM	#46
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Hi Ron My mate Scott in your part of the world is using an FZ2500 with a varizoom unit and says it works perfectly for video. I suspect if that works then the Libec would work too.

December 20th, 2016, 07:15 PM	#47
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,222	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? That is great as I am thinking of using instead of my AX100 as the FZ2500 can also be controlled with WiFi app that is more comprehensive than the Sony PlayMemories control. Yes I am sure the libec controller I have can be set for Sony or Panasonic and will likely have the same protocol as the Varizoom. I am up for buying what ever works anyway as the main thing is to use like a normal camcorder on a tripod as well as a remote controlled with WiFi. Ron Evans

December 20th, 2016, 08:16 PM	#48
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? I also have FZ1000's and they seem to work well with the Smartphone App ...I haven't yet tried it but I think you can also zoom with the App via wifi so that is also a remote option ..I must admit I prefer physical controls as I find "swiping" with fingers sometimes doesn't work ...give me a rocker switch any day!! Our FZ2500's have at long last arrived in Australia YAY!! Picking mine up after lunch today!!

December 21st, 2016, 04:50 AM	#49
Roger Gunkel Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: LIncolnshire, UK Posts: 2,213	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Hi Chris, The FZ1000 does indeed have zoom control from the app in addition to being able to adjust gain while filming and many other adjustable parameters. I often use my second FZ1000 as a B cam, and can monitor the video via the app and change zoom etc to add variation to the shot in addition to the cropping in post. I'm sure the 2000/25000 does exactly the same. Using the remote gives you some of the flexibility of a second shooter on the B cam although you can't physically pan or tilt. You can of course still crop to pans and tilts from wide angle 4K footage in post, and still be able to control things like white balance, focus, zoom and exposure just by using the app live. For a solo shooter it's a godsend. Roger

December 21st, 2016, 06:29 AM	#50
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Hi Roger Yes I know but I don't really need it for weddings as I have the main camera and audio XLR module on the tripod usually in the aisle and my B-Cam is handheld so I can get to zoom controls easily. The new 2500 has awesome push button slow zooms too (variable speed) which is perfect for weddings!! Now, I can see the app working for me when I'm doing a multi camera live broadcast as the cams are all fixed. The software allows me to zoom any camera but being able to do an optical zoom is better as I'm normally at the computer and remote control would be a nice add-on. One assumes you could also use a tablet .. that would be neat next to a computer without having to disturb guests to adjust camera controls. I'll have to check the app to see if it now includes activation of the slow zoom feature the FZ2500 has

December 21st, 2016, 02:54 PM	#51
Roger Gunkel Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: LIncolnshire, UK Posts: 2,213	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Chris, I use the Panny app on my iPad, my Android pad and an older Samsung android phone that is just used for camera monitoring and control. Roger

December 21st, 2016, 08:19 PM	#52
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Thanks Roger I'll put the app on my tablet and give it a whirl. Still wading thru the huge 2500 advanced manual ..this camera seems like a 747 flight deck compared to the 1000! So many new features that are awesome!! I'm sure it will be on your wish list ....you will love the Fn button slow zooms for weddings they are awesome as is the touch screen focus and also touch screen exposure comp if you have a backlit situation!

December 22nd, 2016, 06:26 AM	#54
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Fair enough ..doesn't make sense to have one in the freezing cold when you really won't even use it!! Being in the Southern Hemisphere it's full blown Summer (42 degrees Celcius yesterday) but again a quiet period over the Festive Season. Our first wedding is actually New Years Day 2017 and the couple are flying out from Liverpool to get married on the beach in the sun!! I'm doing a live broadcast too on the FZ2500 so I'll send you the link later! In the meantime hope you and Claire have a great Christmas!!

December 22nd, 2016, 08:06 AM	#56
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Thanks Roger Don't envy the UK weather at this time of the year!! We are actually "cheating" on this live broadcast due to the time difference between the UK and here so we will record in the afternoon and then stream a delayed broadcast 4 hours later otherwise the poor folks in Liverpool will have to get up so early in the morning in the freezing cold to watch it. We are planning to do it direct from the camera at mid-day UK time so they can warm up a bit first and not have to roll out of bed at sunrise!! The event page is at : https://livestream.com/videohouse/events/6741648

December 24th, 2016, 08:02 AM	#58
Mike Griffiths Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chiang Mai Thailand Posts: 152	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? I got my FZ2500 from Australia while on holiday in Phuket, Thailand. I played with it, not seriously, but I'm posting some clips for you to see.Simply because these cameras are difficult to get hold of and you might just want to take a look. It seems to have a 40x optical extension in FHD mode, just trired one shot. Please do not comment on the videography- I was on holiday!. I'm impressed with the camera, really easy to use. I tried the 4K JPEG setting it really works! Now, Like Chris, I have to master the 270 pages on the manual. All 1080p, MOV 50fps 100mbps. Remember YT will degrade the image. You can watch it here. THE MIC ON THE BOAT WAS THE STEREO VIDEO MIC AND IT WAS THE OPTICAL EXTENDER NOT THE DIGITAL YouTube (Short URL) __________________ Mike

December 24th, 2016, 08:10 AM	#59
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Hi Mike They are truly awesome cameras are they not? I haven't played with mine yet cos I was busy making a handheld rig for mine. They take a lot of beating!! Well I have 3 x FZ's now .. 2 xFZ1000 and 1 x FZ2500 .... I must give the 100mbps mode a whirl too ..Have you tried it in Intra Mode (200mbps) ...Even at 20mbps it's a stunning image!!

December 26th, 2016, 09:55 PM	#60
Mike Griffiths Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chiang Mai Thailand Posts: 152	Re: Is the FZ2000 the answer for wildlife video? Does anyone know what the significance of the zoom display bar is when it turns blue at the end? The display indicates the focal length in 35mm equivalents and when on optical zoom this can exceed 1000 mm but the last ? 20% of the display is blue and I can't find out why. Does it indicate a deterioration in quality? I've searched the advanced manual and there seems to be no refernce to it there. __________________ Mike