For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! at DVinfo.net

Chris Harding · September 19th, 2016, 05:40 AM

For those who poo-pooed the rumours about a successor to the FZ1000 ...here are the new camera specs and review ... It will be the FZ2000 in Europe and FZ2500 in the USA

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pan...essions-review

Nice new features!!!

Noa Put · September 19th, 2016, 06:03 AM

I think we all knew a successor was coming, I only am not such a fan of guessing specs based on rumors only.
Still need to see how the IQ will be as the fz1000 had a too limited DR for my purpose as all I could see in videos was easily blown highlights. For the rest it seems like they added some nice upgrades like the ND, a paid vlog (which might help with protecting the highlights but remains to be seen), a better full hd codec and 4:2:2 10 bit out but unfortunately still a lens that ramps once you start zooming.

Chris Harding · September 19th, 2016, 07:05 AM

I really like the fact for video they have added the dolly focus and some decent zoom speeds. Not sure if I'll be using 4K as opposed to UHD but nice it's there ... We are doing a LOT of live stuff now so the added ability to record to card and output HDMI is a big plus.

My Nikon still cameras are starting to show their age now so I use an FZ1000 for backup stills and it does very well indeed and a lot better ISO too than my old tired D90's ... I just might keep the FZ1000's for stills and get rid of the Nikons and all the lenses too ..only thing is a really need a wide lens for the odd real estate shoot. The stackable focus points are also interesting but I wonder if they will actually be practical during a shoot?? Video with the ne w codecs should be better but as you say the lens could have easily been dropped to a 10X or 15X instead of a 20X and made F2.8 right through the range!!

Jack Walsh · September 19th, 2016, 07:38 AM

Hmm, no video record time limit!!!!!??????

Michael Liebergot · September 20th, 2016, 10:32 AM

Love to find out if the new FZ2500 lets us use HDMI out to an external monitor.

Roger Gunkel · September 20th, 2016, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Liebergot

Love to find out if the new FZ2500 lets us use HDMI out to an external monitor.

All the tech specs are on the Panasonic website DMC-FZ2000 Bridge Cameras - Panasonic UK & Ireland

It quite clearly says HDMI monitor output and additionally unrestricted recording time in all 4K and HD formats, files will be recorded continuously for unrestricted recording time, but split for playback. Been waiting a long time for that :-)

Roger

Chris Harding · September 20th, 2016, 06:22 PM

The camera outputs HDMI 4:2:2 10 bit from the port if you don't record to a card at the same time. If you want to record to SD card and also send HDMI out then the HDMI drops to 4:2:0 8 bit ... I'm not sure how that would affect your monitor but with the new cameras you certainly can record as normal and send the signal at the same time to an HDMI monitor but it will be 4:2:0 8 bit not the higher quality 4:2:2 10 bit if you don't record to card.

Paul Mailath · September 20th, 2016, 07:34 PM

I'll certainly be getting one - if only it was a little better in low light I could shoot an entire wedding with one - how easy would that be!

Chris Harding · September 21st, 2016, 02:42 AM

I don't really need the extra zoom ..not at weddings anyway but the new features are geared towards better video. Love the Dolly Zoom especially ...that will be awesome at weddings! It was hinted that they would use the GH4 sensor but obviously not. I still find that my video with the FZ is still better than my Sony EA-50's with an F2.8 lens in low light. With the Sony I eventually needed to go to a Sigma Art lens in manual so I lost all the neat Sony features!! I wonder when it will appear in Australia. B&H are already taking pre-orders but that's the NTSC model FZ2500 ... They are not PAL switchable are they?? I'm assuming we will have to wait for the FZ2000 here.

Steve Burkett · September 21st, 2016, 02:55 AM

It's a great all-rounder; really wish I could fit it into my style of filming. Alas the 5 axis doesn't apply to 4K, making even its use as a personal rather than business camera less attractive. Still I'd say its now on the way to being the top hybrid camera out there.

Chris Harding · September 21st, 2016, 04:16 AM

Hmmm .. we have the FZ2500 on pre-order here now. I thought that the 2500 was for the USA and the 2000 for Europe??? (which includes Australia) Obviously not ... Pre-Order price retail here is AUS$1499

I wonder then if the 2000 will be any different ..the 2500 has both 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 frame rates

Tom Mussatto · September 21st, 2016, 07:44 AM

I wonder if the first run of FZ2500's will be Japanese made as were the first FZ1000's, Hate doing the pre-order thing but worth considering to get a Japanese camera.

Chris Harding · September 22nd, 2016, 01:47 AM

All our dealers here have the FZ2500 (no FZ2000) now on pre-order so one has to assume that our camera in Australia will be the FZ2500 not the FZ2000

What is being offered in the UK guys??

Dave Baker · September 22nd, 2016, 04:27 AM

According to the Panasonic UK web site and Jessops, the FZ2000. The Jessops pre-order price is £1099 and they're offering the v-log upgrade free.

Dave

Noa Put · September 22nd, 2016, 04:37 AM

In Belgium it's also the fz2000, it's 1250euro (21% tax incl) while the fz1000 is currently 685euro.

September 19th, 2016, 05:40 AM	#1
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! For those who poo-pooed the rumours about a successor to the FZ1000 ...here are the new camera specs and review ... It will be the FZ2000 in Europe and FZ2500 in the USA https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pan...essions-review Nice new features!!!

September 19th, 2016, 06:03 AM	#2
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! I think we all knew a successor was coming, I only am not such a fan of guessing specs based on rumors only. Still need to see how the IQ will be as the fz1000 had a too limited DR for my purpose as all I could see in videos was easily blown highlights. For the rest it seems like they added some nice upgrades like the ND, a paid vlog (which might help with protecting the highlights but remains to be seen), a better full hd codec and 4:2:2 10 bit out but unfortunately still a lens that ramps once you start zooming.

September 19th, 2016, 07:05 AM	#3
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! I really like the fact for video they have added the dolly focus and some decent zoom speeds. Not sure if I'll be using 4K as opposed to UHD but nice it's there ... We are doing a LOT of live stuff now so the added ability to record to card and output HDMI is a big plus. My Nikon still cameras are starting to show their age now so I use an FZ1000 for backup stills and it does very well indeed and a lot better ISO too than my old tired D90's ... I just might keep the FZ1000's for stills and get rid of the Nikons and all the lenses too ..only thing is a really need a wide lens for the odd real estate shoot. The stackable focus points are also interesting but I wonder if they will actually be practical during a shoot?? Video with the ne w codecs should be better but as you say the lens could have easily been dropped to a 10X or 15X instead of a 20X and made F2.8 right through the range!!

September 19th, 2016, 07:38 AM	#4
Jack Walsh Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Valentine NSW, Australia Posts: 91	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! Hmm, no video record time limit!!!!!??????

September 20th, 2016, 10:32 AM	#5
Michael Liebergot Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,505	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! Love to find out if the new FZ2500 lets us use HDMI out to an external monitor. __________________ Michael www.lvpvideo.com

September 20th, 2016, 06:22 PM	#7
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! The camera outputs HDMI 4:2:2 10 bit from the port if you don't record to a card at the same time. If you want to record to SD card and also send HDMI out then the HDMI drops to 4:2:0 8 bit ... I'm not sure how that would affect your monitor but with the new cameras you certainly can record as normal and send the signal at the same time to an HDMI monitor but it will be 4:2:0 8 bit not the higher quality 4:2:2 10 bit if you don't record to card.

September 20th, 2016, 07:34 PM	#8
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,606	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! I'll certainly be getting one - if only it was a little better in low light I could shoot an entire wedding with one - how easy would that be! __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

September 21st, 2016, 02:42 AM	#9
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! I don't really need the extra zoom ..not at weddings anyway but the new features are geared towards better video. Love the Dolly Zoom especially ...that will be awesome at weddings! It was hinted that they would use the GH4 sensor but obviously not. I still find that my video with the FZ is still better than my Sony EA-50's with an F2.8 lens in low light. With the Sony I eventually needed to go to a Sigma Art lens in manual so I lost all the neat Sony features!! I wonder when it will appear in Australia. B&H are already taking pre-orders but that's the NTSC model FZ2500 ... They are not PAL switchable are they?? I'm assuming we will have to wait for the FZ2000 here.

September 21st, 2016, 02:55 AM	#10
Steve Burkett Trustee Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Romsey, UK Posts: 1,261	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! It's a great all-rounder; really wish I could fit it into my style of filming. Alas the 5 axis doesn't apply to 4K, making even its use as a personal rather than business camera less attractive. Still I'd say its now on the way to being the top hybrid camera out there.

September 21st, 2016, 04:16 AM	#11
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! Hmmm .. we have the FZ2500 on pre-order here now. I thought that the 2500 was for the USA and the 2000 for Europe??? (which includes Australia) Obviously not ... Pre-Order price retail here is AUS$1499 I wonder then if the 2000 will be any different ..the 2500 has both 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 frame rates

September 21st, 2016, 07:44 AM	#12
Tom Mussatto Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: worden, illinois Posts: 76	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! I wonder if the first run of FZ2500's will be Japanese made as were the first FZ1000's, Hate doing the pre-order thing but worth considering to get a Japanese camera.

September 22nd, 2016, 01:47 AM	#13
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! All our dealers here have the FZ2500 (no FZ2000) now on pre-order so one has to assume that our camera in Australia will be the FZ2500 not the FZ2000 What is being offered in the UK guys??

September 22nd, 2016, 04:27 AM	#14
Dave Baker Major Player Join Date: May 2014 Location: Brandon, England Posts: 459	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! According to the Panasonic UK web site and Jessops, the FZ2000. The Jessops pre-order price is £1099 and they're offering the v-log upgrade free. Dave

September 22nd, 2016, 04:37 AM	#15
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Re: For the non-believers -FZ2500/2000 is out!! In Belgium it's also the fz2000, it's 1250euro (21% tax incl) while the fz1000 is currently 685euro.