Panasonic LUMIX FZ1000 announced with 4K recording

[Bruce Dempsey]

4k I calculate 52 minutes on a 64gb card but i'm unsure
Hoping Panasonic will surprise me by releasing the camera earlier than previously projected lol

[Noa Put]

I can record 1 hour and 25 minutes of 100mbs 4K onto a 64gb card on my gh4, weird thing is though the camera only uses 49gb of the card and then says it's full while according to windows explorer there is still 10gb available.

[Bruce Dempsey]

just a wild guess but that 10gb might be the pagefile backup area from which recovery is possible
but I have no idea really

[Phil Goetz]

ETA end of the month. Do you have a pre-order in?

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ1000K

[Bruce Dempsey]

Estimated Ship Date: 1 - 3 business days
As found on the Panasonic/Shop page for this camera.
Maybe should have pre-ordered there instead of NYC. I just thought Panasonic would take care of their dealers first. my bad

[Darren Levine]

has anyone seen if there are separate pal/ntsc versions, or that it's switchable in camera?

[Jurij Turnsek]

Has anyone done a detailed comparison between Panasonic Lumix GH4 + 14-140/4-5,8 lens and FZ1000? Is the price difference justified (I am not bothered by the missing telephoto range)?

[Noa Put]

Beside the fact that both can do 4k internally they are 2 different camera's, in 4K mode the fz1000 crops considerable starting at 37mm I think which is not wide at all and practically not usable for many. It would be a great camera for a more telephoto range but it still remains to be seen how the low light capability of this camera is.
The lens you are refering to I have as well and while it's a great allround lens I find it unusable inside when it gets too dark, but the advantage of a GH4 is that you can put on a lens that can cope under these circumstances while with the fz1000 you are stuck with what the lens offers you.

[Aldo Erdic]

Regarding the 30 minute recording limit: Once the camera stops recording at the 30 minute mark, how long is the wait before you can start recording again? Is it a matter of waiting for the camera to cool down?

[Bruce Dempsey]

Can't say for sure as I don't have one yet but other cameras you might lose a second or two but that's all

[Bruce Dempsey]

Been mulling over the implications of the less than ideal wide end (37mm) of the Leica lens when in 4K mode on the fz1000 and imagining some shots that I typically need.

I came across this statement from Red Cameras in "Quotes" below and I'm beginning to understand now that what I first thought was a handicap may in fact assist in acquiring crisp video in 4K mode

"A higher crop factor means a given lens will appear as if it were a longer focal length, and at the same subject magnification, that lens will also have more depth of field. "

In the run and gun world where re-takes don't happen, a sufficiently deep depth of field is essential because most anything other than an out of focus issue can be adjusted in post.

am I right?

[Ken Ross]

Everything is relative, Bruce. Even if you have a slightly greater DOF, what is that relative to? Is it relative to this same camera if the entire sensor was scanned? If you take a competitor like the AX100, having enough DOF will rarely be an issue and I see little advantage for the Panasonic in those terms.

However for those times when you want a shallower DOF (and those do occur), it will be more difficult with the Panasonic as opposed to the Sony.

Frankly, I think Sony's approach to scanning the entire sensor has proved very successful in both the AX100 and the RX10. I think there are always sacrifices made when only a portion of the sensor is used.

[Bruce Dempsey]

Ken I'm really not trying to prove anything but I did invite comment
just musings

[Noa Put]

I did expect some more shallow dof on the ax100 but it ramps quickly to f4 once you start to zoom in, my rx10 performs much better in that respect and I prefer using that camera for talking heads that are shot from a distance. In terms of focussing I prefer the ax100 again because I have had 2 weddings already where I was slightly of with the rx10 on focus and didn't notice that during recording. The fz1000 should have that advantage as well of having a deeper dof?

[Ken Ross]

Originally Posted by Bruce Dempsey

Ken I'm really not trying to prove anything but I did invite comment
just musings

Don't get me wrong Bruce, I wasn't trying to pit one camera against the other. I was just trying to show the pros & cons of both approaches (full sensor readout vs partial)