TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! at DVinfo.net

Kevin Janisch · September 20th, 2011, 12:54 PM

May be a soon-to-be owner of the TM900, but read this on Amazon.com review:

"Using *any* lens filter on this camcorder with image stabilization on is a big no-no. When panning the camera with a filter on, the edges of the filter slowly encroach on the image in the frame, giving you a terrible shot. I would only recommend using filters if the camcorder is mounted on a tripod and image stabilization is turned off. You won't notice this problem until you're reviewing your footage on a computer. By then it's too late."

Is this true? Even with just a lens filter? I saw this vignetting with the Raynox .66 WA which I plan to use with the TM900 in some situations. Can anybody comment, confirm, deny this? Many thanks.

Colin Rowe · September 20th, 2011, 01:59 PM

Dont see it on mine,is there a hood on the WA adaptor ??
Just checked mine, no problem at all, mind you, I would never pan as fast as shown on the clip above.
Used TM900, Raynox 6600

Kevin Janisch · September 20th, 2011, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the reply Colin. Not sure what's going on in the clip above, but you can see vignetting in the upper and lower corners on the left side of the frame. Not sure what's going on. If you're not seeing this with with the .66 and an XHA1 Lens hood then all is good.

Question though, does the TM900 LCD have overscan or is it truescan?

Also, what's your opinion of the Raynox .66 on the TM900? Many thanks again!

Kevin

Andy Wilkinson · September 21st, 2011, 12:44 AM

If you whip pan with the TM900 with BOTH the lens hood and 46mm filter on (I have a rotating polariser which I use in certain applications) you will definitely see encroachment of the filter into the edges of the shot as the (excellent) OIS does its job exactly like in the second half of that video. At full wide (35mm) it will vignette a little in each corner of the frame (even when stable/static, with or without OIS on). With just the hood on or just a filter on this does not happen. This is with a Hoya CIR-PL filter and supplied TM900 lens hood. Hope this helps.

Jeremy Dallek · September 26th, 2011, 02:55 PM

The first thing I did when I got my TM700 was to purchase a 46mm to 58mm step up ring, and then purchased filters and lenses that fit 58mm threads, this gives some room to stack filters, or add wide angle lenses with less fear of vignette. Using the regular OIS setting instead of the mega OIS setting will help and/or make sure to zoom in a bit instead of recording at full wide angle.

September 20th, 2011, 12:54 PM	#1
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! May be a soon-to-be owner of the TM900, but read this on Amazon.com review: "Using any lens filter on this camcorder with image stabilization on is a big no-no. When panning the camera with a filter on, the edges of the filter slowly encroach on the image in the frame, giving you a terrible shot. I would only recommend using filters if the camcorder is mounted on a tripod and image stabilization is turned off. You won't notice this problem until you're reviewing your footage on a computer. By then it's too late." Is this true? Even with just a lens filter? I saw this vignetting with the Raynox .66 WA which I plan to use with the TM900 in some situations. Can anybody comment, confirm, deny this? Many thanks. raynox 6600 hd su panasonic tm900 on Vimeo __________________ GH4 + Voigtlander 25mm, Panasonic TM900, Vegas Pro 16, Adobe CC

September 20th, 2011, 01:59 PM	#2
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	Re: TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! Dont see it on mine,is there a hood on the WA adaptor ?? Just checked mine, no problem at all, mind you, I would never pan as fast as shown on the clip above. Used TM900, Raynox 6600 __________________ Colin

September 20th, 2011, 02:09 PM	#3
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Re: TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! Thanks for the reply Colin. Not sure what's going on in the clip above, but you can see vignetting in the upper and lower corners on the left side of the frame. Not sure what's going on. If you're not seeing this with with the .66 and an XHA1 Lens hood then all is good. Question though, does the TM900 LCD have overscan or is it truescan? Also, what's your opinion of the Raynox .66 on the TM900? Many thanks again! Kevin __________________ GH4 + Voigtlander 25mm, Panasonic TM900, Vegas Pro 16, Adobe CC

September 21st, 2011, 12:44 AM	#4
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! If you whip pan with the TM900 with BOTH the lens hood and 46mm filter on (I have a rotating polariser which I use in certain applications) you will definitely see encroachment of the filter into the edges of the shot as the (excellent) OIS does its job exactly like in the second half of that video. At full wide (35mm) it will vignette a little in each corner of the frame (even when stable/static, with or without OIS on). With just the hood on or just a filter on this does not happen. This is with a Hoya CIR-PL filter and supplied TM900 lens hood. Hope this helps. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

September 26th, 2011, 02:55 PM	#5
Jeremy Dallek Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 40	Re: TM900 with OIS with Lens Filter = Vignetting!?! The first thing I did when I got my TM700 was to purchase a 46mm to 58mm step up ring, and then purchased filters and lenses that fit 58mm threads, this gives some room to stack filters, or add wide angle lenses with less fear of vignette. Using the regular OIS setting instead of the mega OIS setting will help and/or make sure to zoom in a bit instead of recording at full wide angle.