dxv100b Low light at DVinfo.net

Andy Loos · April 18th, 2007, 12:54 PM

Just purchased a dvx100b, normally I use a sony pd170. I was out turkey hunting this morning and was amazed how bad the low light on this camera was, compared to the pd170. Any thoughts on what I can do to get a better low light picture with the 100b?

John Hudson · April 19th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Screen caps are always a great way to let us see what your issue is.

Heiko Saele · June 13th, 2007, 07:55 AM

The PD170 is known to have excellent low light performance, the best of all the 1/3" chip prosumer cameras, so of course the DVX100 performs worse in low light (but not too bad either for a 1/3")

Peter Jefferson · June 14th, 2007, 07:25 AM

"The PD170 is known to have excellent low light performance,"

Why though?? Well its because of the low resolution (ie larger pixels per ccd cubic inch... THATS why..
If you want low res good low loght performance your more than welcome to jump ship.. but hold off until i finish.. ))

the best of all the 1/3" chip prosumer cameras,

((I persoanlly disagree with this, but anyway.. ))

so of course the DVX100 performs worse in low light (but not too bad either for a 1/3")

((again, i disagree...
in fact its on par with the PD unit if set correctly..

the gamma config within the DVX allows fora variety of luminance settings.. depending on which one you choose, low light performance of the DVX can be rather spiffy, or downright crap.
The thing to note is that side by side, when BOTH cameras are set correctly, low light performance is ight on idential, save for half a stop or so..
thign with teh DVX though, is that you can also tweak it for a variety of environmnets using the scene files.
master pedestal, gamma, and saturation will all play a part in the way you percieve the image, and the luminance therein

David Chia · June 29th, 2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heiko Saele

The PD170 is known to have excellent low light performance, the best of all the 1/3" chip prosumer cameras,

I disagree with that, the vx2100 is on par in low light too.

You mean one of best.

Yow Siang · July 4th, 2007, 04:19 AM

My friend just called me crazy as i sold my fx1 and bought a dvx102b recently.
Used it on 2 weddings recently. i am just impressed. At 0 gain level. The camera is capturing footages about 1stop brighter than what my eyes see. However realised when i switch to progressive, the images looks darker.

Noa Put · July 4th, 2007, 01:05 PM

I own a dvx100b and a vx2100 and I have both of them with me during weddings, I have done some comparison tests between them at a wedding party with only just candlelight on the tables and no extra lightsource on the camera and there is a big difference in very dark situations, even if you tweak the pana's settings to get the most out of it. Filming in progressive mode is then totally out of the question because you hardly see anything in such a situation.
The Vx2100, which has the same lens as the pd170 outperformes the dvx by a mile on that part. But on the other hand the DVX is a better camera on almost every other part. (Almost, not counting it's crap internal mic in)

Richard Zlamany · July 4th, 2007, 03:43 PM

We just did a test with those two cams and the 170/2100 series and they were brighter with less grain than DVX.

Andy Loos · July 25th, 2007, 09:52 PM

so what setting should i mess with to get the best low light picture with a dvx100b?

April 18th, 2007, 12:54 PM	#1
Andy Loos Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	dxv100b Low light Just purchased a dvx100b, normally I use a sony pd170. I was out turkey hunting this morning and was amazed how bad the low light on this camera was, compared to the pd170. Any thoughts on what I can do to get a better low light picture with the 100b?

April 19th, 2007, 01:44 PM	#2
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Screen caps are always a great way to let us see what your issue is.

June 13th, 2007, 07:55 AM	#3
Heiko Saele Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wurzburg, Germany Posts: 316	The PD170 is known to have excellent low light performance, the best of all the 1/3" chip prosumer cameras, so of course the DVX100 performs worse in low light (but not too bad either for a 1/3")

June 14th, 2007, 07:25 AM	#4
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	"The PD170 is known to have excellent low light performance," Why though?? Well its because of the low resolution (ie larger pixels per ccd cubic inch... THATS why.. If you want low res good low loght performance your more than welcome to jump ship.. but hold off until i finish.. )) the best of all the 1/3" chip prosumer cameras, ((I persoanlly disagree with this, but anyway.. )) so of course the DVX100 performs worse in low light (but not too bad either for a 1/3") ((again, i disagree... in fact its on par with the PD unit if set correctly.. the gamma config within the DVX allows fora variety of luminance settings.. depending on which one you choose, low light performance of the DVX can be rather spiffy, or downright crap. The thing to note is that side by side, when BOTH cameras are set correctly, low light performance is ight on idential, save for half a stop or so.. thign with teh DVX though, is that you can also tweak it for a variety of environmnets using the scene files. master pedestal, gamma, and saturation will all play a part in the way you percieve the image, and the luminance therein

July 4th, 2007, 04:19 AM	#6
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	My friend just called me crazy as i sold my fx1 and bought a dvx102b recently. Used it on 2 weddings recently. i am just impressed. At 0 gain level. The camera is capturing footages about 1stop brighter than what my eyes see. However realised when i switch to progressive, the images looks darker.

July 4th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#7
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	I own a dvx100b and a vx2100 and I have both of them with me during weddings, I have done some comparison tests between them at a wedding party with only just candlelight on the tables and no extra lightsource on the camera and there is a big difference in very dark situations, even if you tweak the pana's settings to get the most out of it. Filming in progressive mode is then totally out of the question because you hardly see anything in such a situation. The Vx2100, which has the same lens as the pd170 outperformes the dvx by a mile on that part. But on the other hand the DVX is a better camera on almost every other part. (Almost, not counting it's crap internal mic in)

July 4th, 2007, 03:43 PM	#8
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	We just did a test with those two cams and the 170/2100 series and they were brighter with less grain than DVX.

July 25th, 2007, 09:52 PM	#9
Andy Loos Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	so what setting should i mess with to get the best low light picture with a dvx100b?