AG-DVC30 Audio, XLR, Mic questions

Robert M Wright · February 27th, 2006, 08:57 AM

Actually, Nady makes what appears to be a clone of the AT822, that can be purchased for about $100 (virtually identical specs and they look so much alike, you almost wonder if it might not be the same mic just sold with different branding on it). I will have one here in a few days to compare with my AT822 and find out how similar the sound really is.

Jonathan Shannon · February 27th, 2006, 09:46 AM

Thanks Robert. I look forward to hearing your observations on the comparison.

Jon

Frank Delle · March 8th, 2006, 04:12 PM

I bought an audio Technica AT897 short shotgun for my DVC 30. It works and sounds great. Can run it without the battery with the Panasonic XLR adapter.

Brendan Bhagan · March 10th, 2006, 07:36 PM

Robert I was looking at that nady mic, it does seem from other sources that it is the at822 to some extent. Let us know how those tests turn out.

Michael Fossenkemper · March 10th, 2006, 10:17 PM

I would consider the xlr adapter. I held off for a long time but finally caved in and haven't regreted it. It's a much cleaner mic pre and it's so much easier to adjust. It also allows many more options to your audio.

Peter Jefferson · March 12th, 2006, 10:38 AM

Hang on hang on..

are u using teh Panasonic Balun with XLRs or are u usin the 3.5mm plug??

dude stay away from the Rode Video mic.. youll get more noise from the mic than u would from your enironment. A while agi we were discussing this mic in the events and weddings forum..
If u want to go Rode, i would recommend the NTG1. Will work perfect with ur Balun.

Jonathan Shannon · March 13th, 2006, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Delle

I bought an audio Technica AT897 short shotgun for my DVC 30. It works and sounds great. Can run it without the battery with the Panasonic XLR adapter.

Thanks Frank. What type of environment are you shooting in? (i.e. more comparable to ambient nature sounds or interviews?) Oh. I just did a quick search and found that it has "excellent sound rejection from the sides and rear of mic". This probably wouldn't be good for my application.

Still interested in Robert's comparison.

Jon

David Roseland · April 26th, 2006, 08:42 AM

The mic level on my dvc30 is very low compared to my GL2. Is there a good way to raise the sensitivity? I messed with the settings but it didn't seem to do much.

Bo Sundvall · April 26th, 2006, 09:53 AM

Hi

The levels ARE low on the DVC30, it's a known problem. I received my DVC30 three weeks ago and I was not impressed of the internal mic.
You can raise the levels by press and HOLD the menu button for a few seconds. Then the volume level menu will appear.

I have an external mic (Rode NTG-1) and the XLR adaptor to the DVC30. It's not a cheap setup but with this configuration I have very good sound.

Regards,

/Bo

Brendan Bhagan · May 4th, 2006, 07:43 PM

The mic levels on the DVC30 are known to be weak, they did this to reduce handling noise. It will work fine for ambient sounds and it picks up highs very well but for vocals it's not directional so it's usless. If the xlr box and ntg-1/ ntg-2 or at 897 mics are a bit too much and you want to record voices or sound from a single source look at the videomic, you'll notice the difference. To get better audio than the video mic you'll need to spend the bucks for what Sundvall has or more.

Derek Weiss · June 15th, 2006, 10:59 AM

My 'phones' mini jack on my DVC30 is no longer working, and the mini jack for the mic input has always been touchy and finicky (have XLR adapter, so no big deal). But has anyone else had problems with there mini jacks on this cam?

Roger Averdahl · June 15th, 2006, 11:56 AM

A couple a days ago i replaced my 3.5mm plug to my Beachtek XLR adapter with a rigid one from Neutrik. All of a sudden my camera changed audio input from my Beachtek XLR adapter to the original adapter, AG-MYA30, back and forth when i used the new 3.5 mm plug.

The dimensions on the Neutrik plug was a hair smaller than the original 3.5 mm plug on the Beachtek XLR adapter and thus caused my camera to change the input back and forth. So yes, the camera seems to be sensitive about the dimensions on the plugs. Even very very small differences seems to make the camera to be touchy and fincky.

Now, the original 3.5 mm plug from my Beachtek is back on the adapter and everything works o.k! :)

/Roger

Richard Smith · July 24th, 2006, 09:34 AM

Quick question (just need to be sure), im shooting with a dvc30 with xlr and external mic. I put the +v48v phantom on, do I need to use the attenuation switch? The shooting will primarily be interviews.

Thanks

Duane Prince · July 26th, 2006, 08:34 PM

..don't use the +48V phantom power, unless the mic calls(needs) for it.. All condenser mics require a power supply, whether it's a battery, or phantom power from a camera or sound board..
if your mic has it's own battery, you shouldn't need the phantom power from the camera...

..attenuation is designed to knock a strong audio signal down, to where it's usable for your purposes... example, if you're taking an audio source(line level) from a sound board, you'll need to reduce that to a mic level, so your DVC30 can use it, without being heavily distorted..

..from your description, using an external mic, it sounds like you don't need the attenuation on... :)

Scott Hoffpauir · November 14th, 2006, 10:42 AM

I have a Panasonic DVC30 with an XLR Mic adaptor. This adaptor has a setting for phantom power. I was wondering if the on-camera lights that have the XLR connector can be powered by this adaptor.

April 26th, 2006, 08:42 AM	#68
David Roseland New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 9	dvc30 mic level... The mic level on my dvc30 is very low compared to my GL2. Is there a good way to raise the sensitivity? I messed with the settings but it didn't seem to do much.

June 15th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#71
Derek Weiss Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 214	DVC 30 mini jack problems My 'phones' mini jack on my DVC30 is no longer working, and the mini jack for the mic input has always been touchy and finicky (have XLR adapter, so no big deal). But has anyone else had problems with there mini jacks on this cam?

June 15th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#72
Roger Averdahl Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stockholm - Sweden Posts: 344	A couple a days ago i replaced my 3.5mm plug to my Beachtek XLR adapter with a rigid one from Neutrik. All of a sudden my camera changed audio input from my Beachtek XLR adapter to the original adapter, AG-MYA30, back and forth when i used the new 3.5 mm plug. The dimensions on the Neutrik plug was a hair smaller than the original 3.5 mm plug on the Beachtek XLR adapter and thus caused my camera to change the input back and forth. So yes, the camera seems to be sensitive about the dimensions on the plugs. Even very very small differences seems to make the camera to be touchy and fincky. Now, the original 3.5 mm plug from my Beachtek is back on the adapter and everything works o.k! :) /Roger __________________ /Roger

July 24th, 2006, 09:34 AM	#73
Richard Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 16	DVC30 XLR settings Quick question (just need to be sure), im shooting with a dvc30 with xlr and external mic. I put the +v48v phantom on, do I need to use the attenuation switch? The shooting will primarily be interviews. Thanks

July 26th, 2006, 08:34 PM	#74
Duane Prince Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: central AZ. Posts: 36	..don't use the +48V phantom power, unless the mic calls(needs) for it.. All condenser mics require a power supply, whether it's a battery, or phantom power from a camera or sound board.. if your mic has it's own battery, you shouldn't need the phantom power from the camera... ..attenuation is designed to knock a strong audio signal down, to where it's usable for your purposes... example, if you're taking an audio source(line level) from a sound board, you'll need to reduce that to a mic level, so your DVC30 can use it, without being heavily distorted.. ..from your description, using an external mic, it sounds like you don't need the attenuation on... :) __________________ tumbleweed

February 27th, 2006, 08:57 AM	#61
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Actually, Nady makes what appears to be a clone of the AT822, that can be purchased for about $100 (virtually identical specs and they look so much alike, you almost wonder if it might not be the same mic just sold with different branding on it). I will have one here in a few days to compare with my AT822 and find out how similar the sound really is.

February 27th, 2006, 09:46 AM	#62
Jonathan Shannon Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Valley Springs, CA Posts: 34	Thanks Robert. I look forward to hearing your observations on the comparison. Jon

March 8th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#63
Frank Delle New Boot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando Florida Posts: 6	I bought an audio Technica AT897 short shotgun for my DVC 30. It works and sounds great. Can run it without the battery with the Panasonic XLR adapter.

March 10th, 2006, 07:36 PM	#64
Brendan Bhagan New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad WI Posts: 22	Robert I was looking at that nady mic, it does seem from other sources that it is the at822 to some extent. Let us know how those tests turn out.

March 10th, 2006, 10:17 PM	#65
Michael Fossenkemper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC, weeee. Posts: 417	I would consider the xlr adapter. I held off for a long time but finally caved in and haven't regreted it. It's a much cleaner mic pre and it's so much easier to adjust. It also allows many more options to your audio.

March 12th, 2006, 10:38 AM	#66
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Hang on hang on.. are u using teh Panasonic Balun with XLRs or are u usin the 3.5mm plug?? dude stay away from the Rode Video mic.. youll get more noise from the mic than u would from your enironment. A while agi we were discussing this mic in the events and weddings forum.. If u want to go Rode, i would recommend the NTG1. Will work perfect with ur Balun.

April 26th, 2006, 09:53 AM	#69
Bo Sundvall Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 244	Hi The levels ARE low on the DVC30, it's a known problem. I received my DVC30 three weeks ago and I was not impressed of the internal mic. You can raise the levels by press and HOLD the menu button for a few seconds. Then the volume level menu will appear. I have an external mic (Rode NTG-1) and the XLR adaptor to the DVC30. It's not a cheap setup but with this configuration I have very good sound. Regards, /Bo

May 4th, 2006, 07:43 PM	#70
Brendan Bhagan New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad WI Posts: 22	The mic levels on the DVC30 are known to be weak, they did this to reduce handling noise. It will work fine for ambient sounds and it picks up highs very well but for vocals it's not directional so it's usless. If the xlr box and ntg-1/ ntg-2 or at 897 mics are a bit too much and you want to record voices or sound from a single source look at the videomic, you'll notice the difference. To get better audio than the video mic you'll need to spend the bucks for what Sundvall has or more.

November 14th, 2006, 10:42 AM	#75
Scott Hoffpauir Tourist Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2	Panasonic DVC30 - XLR Mic Adaptor I have a Panasonic DVC30 with an XLR Mic adaptor. This adaptor has a setting for phantom power. I was wondering if the on-camera lights that have the XLR connector can be powered by this adaptor.