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Robert Bobson · January 31st, 2006, 06:58 AM

I'm reading a lot about the video noise in the dvc 100a, and that it's been somewhat improved in the 100b.

How noticable is it?

Is it only in low-light situations? does it jump right out at you?

Is it noticable at 0 gain?

would you notice it if you weren't looking for it?

What have you done/ what can be done to minimize it?

Any footage available to look at?

Any TV shows or films shot on DVX100a/b that you know of?

[list of films shot on dvx100: http://us.imdb.com/SearchTechnical?C...ic%20AG-DVX100 - I only saw two titles that I recognized - NOVEMBER (2004) starting Courteney Cox, and
CLOSER (2004). But this CLOSER is actually a short written and directer by Andre Mallette, not the Natalie Portman movie directed by Mike Nichols]

[found this link: http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread...t=shows+dvx100 - but don't know how accurate these postings are]

I'm hoping someone will quell my fears ~~~

Thanks

Robert Bobson · February 1st, 2006, 07:55 AM

I rented the movie November, which was reputedly shot on dvx100. It's a mystery/thriller starring Courtney Cox.

I was disheartened at first because the footage is all bluish green and NOISY. But it turns out, that was an intentional effect, to aid the storyline.

as the movie progresses, the colors become more natural. and the video looks pretty good. I noticed some zagged artifacting on a few pans, and the edge of Cox's face in one scene.

overall, it looks good. The scenes are pretty well lit - although there is some blooming of the whites in several scenes (maybe intentional?)

the movie plot is interesting, though pretty convoluted and obscure.
Probably requires a second viewing to see all the foreshadowed "clues".

I'm convinced the dvx100b will be able to handle my needs.

Robert Bobson · February 2nd, 2006, 07:30 AM

DVXUser.com

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/forumdisplay.php?f=15

Matt Stahley · February 5th, 2006, 01:23 PM

Also to help with the noise set gamma to cinelike (not d or v) and keep the matrix set to norm.

Ryan Gohlinghorst · February 9th, 2006, 08:36 PM

If you light your scenes well enough, I think you'll find that noise isn't a problem.

Robert Bobson · February 10th, 2006, 05:49 AM

That brings up a good question.

If I'm shooting a dramatic scene with lots of dark (black) areas, but the main areas are properly lit - so I can leave the gain at 0 - will the dark areas be noise free?

what about areas of saturated color?

thanks for your response ~

Matt Stahley · February 11th, 2006, 12:24 AM

Robert the DVX loves light. I would recommend to always keep the gain at 0 especially if you are lighting the scenes you shouldnt need any gain

January 31st, 2006, 06:58 AM	#1
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	noisy video I'm reading a lot about the video noise in the dvc 100a, and that it's been somewhat improved in the 100b. How noticable is it? Is it only in low-light situations? does it jump right out at you? Is it noticable at 0 gain? would you notice it if you weren't looking for it? What have you done/ what can be done to minimize it? Any footage available to look at? Any TV shows or films shot on DVX100a/b that you know of? [list of films shot on dvx100: http://us.imdb.com/SearchTechnical?C...ic%20AG-DVX100 - I only saw two titles that I recognized - NOVEMBER (2004) starting Courteney Cox, and CLOSER (2004). But this CLOSER is actually a short written and directer by Andre Mallette, not the Natalie Portman movie directed by Mike Nichols] [found this link: http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread...t=shows+dvx100 - but don't know how accurate these postings are] I'm hoping someone will quell my fears ~~~ Thanks Last edited by Robert Bobson; January 31st, 2006 at 08:00 AM.

February 1st, 2006, 07:55 AM	#2
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	movie November I rented the movie November, which was reputedly shot on dvx100. It's a mystery/thriller starring Courtney Cox. I was disheartened at first because the footage is all bluish green and NOISY. But it turns out, that was an intentional effect, to aid the storyline. as the movie progresses, the colors become more natural. and the video looks pretty good. I noticed some zagged artifacting on a few pans, and the edge of Cox's face in one scene. overall, it looks good. The scenes are pretty well lit - although there is some blooming of the whites in several scenes (maybe intentional?) the movie plot is interesting, though pretty convoluted and obscure. Probably requires a second viewing to see all the foreshadowed "clues". I'm convinced the dvx100b will be able to handle my needs.

February 2nd, 2006, 07:30 AM	#3
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	found video footage examples DVXUser.com http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/forumdisplay.php?f=15

February 9th, 2006, 08:36 PM	#5
Ryan Gohlinghorst Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mankato, Minnesota Posts: 104	If you light your scenes well enough, I think you'll find that noise isn't a problem. __________________ http://www.horsefilms.com "I like Mankato just a little bit better than any other town in the world." -Sinclair Lewis

February 5th, 2006, 01:23 PM	#4
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Also to help with the noise set gamma to cinelike (not d or v) and keep the matrix set to norm.

February 10th, 2006, 05:49 AM	#6
Robert Bobson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bay City, Michigan Posts: 585	That brings up a good question. If I'm shooting a dramatic scene with lots of dark (black) areas, but the main areas are properly lit - so I can leave the gain at 0 - will the dark areas be noise free? what about areas of saturated color? thanks for your response ~

February 11th, 2006, 12:24 AM	#7
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Robert the DVX loves light. I would recommend to always keep the gain at 0 especially if you are lighting the scenes you shouldnt need any gain