DVX100: sloppy shotgun mic mount? at DVinfo.net

Michael McGruder · January 29th, 2006, 10:15 AM

Greetings,

I recently upgraded to a DVX100b (*woot*) and I mounted an Audio Technica AT897 shotgun mic and it's really loose in the holder. I guess I just wanted to know if this is normal or if there is anything I should do to stablize it further or leave it alone. I do not think the rubber grips inside the clamp will allow the mic to slip out -- but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything.

Regards,
-Michael

Drew Sommers · February 5th, 2006, 08:41 PM

Congratulations on your new camera. Now this is just my total assumption, but my azden sgm1x is also sloppy in the 100a's mic holder, I'm guessing they made the mic holder to fit their pana brand mic that might have a slightly more robust barrel. No clue I gave up trying to use the mic holder on the camera as on pans it bounces around with the play. Good luck and enjoy!

Matthew Wauhkonen · February 5th, 2006, 11:10 PM

It's Panny's cheap version of a shock mount. The gel stops vibrations from the camera from getting into the mic.

I'm going to get shot down for saying this, but I think it works pretty well. Most professional "shock mounts" are much more expensive and not that much more secure. (But they will provide much better shock protection, if you need it.) Definitely don't sweat it.

Max Wilson · February 6th, 2006, 01:47 PM

yea my new DVX100B also is like that, but it works great...

Matt Stahley · February 7th, 2006, 10:13 PM

I personally dont care for the mic mount but it does make a nice clamp for a small flashlight when thats your only light resource :)

Frederic Segard · February 8th, 2006, 06:42 AM

With my Sennheiser ME66, the holder was too loose. Just thicken the mic with tape or foam. On the other hand, my Beyer Dynamic MCE86 II is fatter then the Sennheiser, and it fits like a charm. My guess is, it's better to have a larger mic holder for those kind of mics, then the other way around.

Andrew Hoffman · February 8th, 2006, 08:02 PM

I noticed that the MIC mount on the DVX100B was different than the one that was available for the DVX100A.

The one for 100A was solid gel. The one for the 100B is divided gel strips. The only logical reason for this was fewer surfaces touching the MIC. But as a side-affect, you have less support. I will have to check to see if the originals are still available or if they are substituting the old MIC mount part number with the new one. I think I have one of the 100A MIC holders in stock though.

Best regards,

Andrew Hoffman
Senior Operations Manager
Specialized Communications Corp.
20940 Twin Springs Drive
Hagerstown MD, 21783
www.spec-comm.com
1-800-359-1858

Matt Stahley · February 9th, 2006, 12:26 AM

Hey Andrew! Wow I had no idea I had a service center so close to home!

Michael McGruder · February 9th, 2006, 10:48 AM

Thanks to everyone that replied here -- and I followed the advice from Brian at Zotz that mirrored what Frederic mentioned above and it worked out great! I took a small thin piece of packing foam (roughly 2 inch by 6 inch and about 1/4 of an inch thick) and wrapped it several times around the collar of the mic and then placed it back into the holder (no tape). The mic was *much* more solid and I didn't get vibration noise on the recording.

On a side note, I recently took the camera out for a spin to catch some incredibly vibrant sunset footage on the far eastern plains of Colorado -- I was thrilled with the results and I was amazed at the clarity and quality of the picture. I'm still very much a newbie with this machine, but I am *very* pleased that I opted for this over some of the other units I was looking at.

Thanks again for the responses and I look forward to participating in this forum a bit more now that I'm a part of the DVX-owner club!

Do we get a special decoder ring when we join?? :)
Regards,
-Michael

Andrew Hoffman · February 12th, 2006, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Stahley

Hey Andrew! Wow I had no idea I had a service center so close to home!

Matt,

You're right around the corner! Why don't you come visit us sometime and I'll give you a tour of our facility. It goods to hear from the local DVX100 users.

Best regards,

Andrew Hoffman
Senior Operations Manager
Specialized Communications Corp.
20940 Twin Springs Drive
Hagerstown MD, 21783
www.spec-comm.com
1-800-359-1858

Matt Stahley · February 13th, 2006, 01:45 AM

Andrew
sounds like a plan!

matt

Peter Jefferson · February 13th, 2006, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frederic Segard

With my Sennheiser ME66, the holder was too loose. Just thicken the mic with tape or foam. On the other hand, my Beyer Dynamic MCE86 II is fatter then the Sennheiser, and it fits like a charm. My guess is, it's better to have a larger mic holder for those kind of mics, then the other way around.

Really?? im running an ME64 with a K6 module and it fits liek a glove.. the only issue i have with it is that the screws periodocially come loose..

January 29th, 2006, 10:15 AM	#1
Michael McGruder Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 61	DVX100: sloppy shotgun mic mount? Greetings, I recently upgraded to a DVX100b (woot) and I mounted an Audio Technica AT897 shotgun mic and it's really loose in the holder. I guess I just wanted to know if this is normal or if there is anything I should do to stablize it further or leave it alone. I do not think the rubber grips inside the clamp will allow the mic to slip out -- but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything. Regards, -Michael

February 9th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#9
Michael McGruder Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 61	Thanks! Thanks to everyone that replied here -- and I followed the advice from Brian at Zotz that mirrored what Frederic mentioned above and it worked out great! I took a small thin piece of packing foam (roughly 2 inch by 6 inch and about 1/4 of an inch thick) and wrapped it several times around the collar of the mic and then placed it back into the holder (no tape). The mic was much more solid and I didn't get vibration noise on the recording. On a side note, I recently took the camera out for a spin to catch some incredibly vibrant sunset footage on the far eastern plains of Colorado -- I was thrilled with the results and I was amazed at the clarity and quality of the picture. I'm still very much a newbie with this machine, but I am very pleased that I opted for this over some of the other units I was looking at. Thanks again for the responses and I look forward to participating in this forum a bit more now that I'm a part of the DVX-owner club! Do we get a special decoder ring when we join?? :) Regards, -Michael

February 5th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#2
Drew Sommers Tourist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 3	Congratulations on your new camera. Now this is just my total assumption, but my azden sgm1x is also sloppy in the 100a's mic holder, I'm guessing they made the mic holder to fit their pana brand mic that might have a slightly more robust barrel. No clue I gave up trying to use the mic holder on the camera as on pans it bounces around with the play. Good luck and enjoy!

February 5th, 2006, 11:10 PM	#3
Matthew Wauhkonen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 285	It's Panny's cheap version of a shock mount. The gel stops vibrations from the camera from getting into the mic. I'm going to get shot down for saying this, but I think it works pretty well. Most professional "shock mounts" are much more expensive and not that much more secure. (But they will provide much better shock protection, if you need it.) Definitely don't sweat it.

February 6th, 2006, 01:47 PM	#4
Max Wilson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 62	yea my new DVX100B also is like that, but it works great...

February 7th, 2006, 10:13 PM	#5
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	I personally dont care for the mic mount but it does make a nice clamp for a small flashlight when thats your only light resource :)

February 8th, 2006, 06:42 AM	#6
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	With my Sennheiser ME66, the holder was too loose. Just thicken the mic with tape or foam. On the other hand, my Beyer Dynamic MCE86 II is fatter then the Sennheiser, and it fits like a charm. My guess is, it's better to have a larger mic holder for those kind of mics, then the other way around.

February 8th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#7
Andrew Hoffman Specialized Communications Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Smithsburg, MD Posts: 19	I noticed that the MIC mount on the DVX100B was different than the one that was available for the DVX100A. The one for 100A was solid gel. The one for the 100B is divided gel strips. The only logical reason for this was fewer surfaces touching the MIC. But as a side-affect, you have less support. I will have to check to see if the originals are still available or if they are substituting the old MIC mount part number with the new one. I think I have one of the 100A MIC holders in stock though. Best regards, Andrew Hoffman Senior Operations Manager Specialized Communications Corp. 20940 Twin Springs Drive Hagerstown MD, 21783 www.spec-comm.com 1-800-359-1858

February 9th, 2006, 12:26 AM	#8
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Hey Andrew! Wow I had no idea I had a service center so close to home!

February 13th, 2006, 01:45 AM	#11
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	Andrew sounds like a plan! matt