Another Good or Fake Price???What you think

Chema Martinez · January 27th, 2003, 05:47 AM

It seems like they are legit because I have been watching them for a a couple of years in manyaplaces of broadcast trading like mandy.com dealing with great prices and i haven´t read a bad review in the internet about them. Also, I checked their company registration number in Singapore and it´s fine. Singapore has great reputation in trading as their policy in customs is really fair. I realize that if they are not legit it should be tons of posts around the net blaming about them and as i said before I haven´t read one yet.

Chung Lee · January 27th, 2003, 09:36 AM

Hi!
anyone knows a good store in Guangzhou/China , who also sales the DVX100 Pal ??
Just asking because my brother is there for buisness right know and will come in February, that would be the best and cheapes way for me to get the DVX100 Pal, cause here it will cost about 4999€.

Chung Lee · January 27th, 2003, 10:23 AM

Hi!
I hope not bother you with my price thing, but you need to understand, that I am not ready to pay the european price(5000Euro), better find another way to get it cheaper.
Here is a store who sales it for USD3200.
Anyone knows something about this store??

Here their reply.

Dear sir,

Thank you very much for your inquiry of AG-DVX100E ( PAL).
We hope our competitive offer stated below
will interest you.

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Model : AG-DVX100E PAL USD 3,200

Price include delivery by Speed Post / DHL door to door.Germany
But exclude your local tax , VAT and duties , if applicable.

Payment : Wire Transfer to our bank account to effect delivery
Cargo Insurance : Can be arranged with us, if you wish.
Order : Booking of stock ( does not require upfront deposit from you )
is required for delivery within 2 weeks time.
You need to sign on our proforma Invoice to book.
Proforma invoice will follow if you could accept our offer.

View detail :
http://www.expandore.com/product/DV%20Product/AGDVX100.htm

View Catalog :
http://www.expandore.com/product/DV%20Product/AG-DVX100(PAL).pdf

Our Bank account detail
http://www.expandore.com/about/our_company_detail.htm#Bank_%20Details

Joe Carney · January 27th, 2003, 02:11 PM

Thanks Chema. I feel better about this then. I too checked around the net and found no bad posts about them. I guess one of us will have to take the plunge.

Jeff, If I order the PAL version, would you be interested in checking it out? compared to the NTSC one?

Allan Rejoso · January 27th, 2003, 08:49 PM

Jeff, Panasonic Japan would not (allthough I'm certain they can) repair any PAL model camcorder. That is their policy. I've mentioned this issue to Joe before. I've reconfirmed this matter at least 3 times. No deal with Pany US too take note!! You'd have to send the camera to PALSVILLE if you need repair or service.

Chris Hurd · January 27th, 2003, 08:59 PM

Allan is quite correct, PAL camcorders will be serviced only in PAL countries having authorized service centers. Plus, the camera's warranty is valid only in the country it was purchased from. Bring one of these PAL units to the U.S. (or Japan), and you will not be able to get it repaired there or get any warranty service/support. Just an FYI,

Jeff Donald · January 28th, 2003, 07:54 AM

Allan, thanks for the correction. I should have read my first post. I assumed (incorrectly) that Panasonic followed other manufactures by doing International Warranties in Japan. Most companies allow for this in their warranties. It's a shame Panasonic doesn't. I would be much more leery of buying a Panasonic camera overseas and having to rely on third world repair services.

Chris Hurd · January 28th, 2003, 09:36 AM

Technically these camcorders could be repaired in Japan, be politically they won't be repaired in Japan. A matter of policy, not capability.

Joe Carney · January 30th, 2003, 05:25 PM

I just emailed Steve as Expandore. He didn't respond to the last one. If he says we should be able to send to japan, and not back to expandore (Singapore) for maintenance, then the deal is off for me. Maybe thats why his prices are so low for this.

Joe Carney · January 31st, 2003, 01:56 PM

Still no answer from Steve at Expandore. I don't have a problem shipping back to Singapore to fix things. Just wish they would clarify.

Joe Carney · February 2nd, 2003, 10:41 AM

finally got an answer from Steve at Expandore. He stated I could send it back to them for a Manufacturers defect within the first 3 months of ownership. Is this good? Normal?

Jeff Donald · February 2nd, 2003, 10:59 AM

Usually the terms of an International Warranty are the same. In Canon's case 1 year parts and labor (90 days on the heads). I would ask your contact for more details. Where would you send it for warranty work after the 90 day period? Is the first 90 days a warranty repair or an exchange. Is Expandore an Authorized Canon repair facility? If not, will there work on the camera during the first 90 days void the remainder of the warranty (I think it does)?

Joe Carney · February 2nd, 2003, 12:03 PM

Jeff, I assume you really meant Panasonic.
They appear to be authorized. They may be geared more toward the Euro market (PAL) than the US one. There has to be some international warranty offered by Panasonic. I'll try to find out more.

Joe Carney · February 2nd, 2003, 12:07 PM

Jeff, Steve updated my just a few moments ago. I can send the camera back to Singapore for any repairs if needed. I asked him for the price of an extended warranty.

You never did answer if you wanted to check out a PaL version if I got it.

Jeff Donald · February 2nd, 2003, 12:20 PM

I would love to see it, but I don't have any PAL gear to try it. I don't even have a PAL monitor to view it on. Sorry. If you work something out let me know. I'd make the trip down to see it and have lunch sometime.

Jeff

January 27th, 2003, 09:36 AM	#17
Chung Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 32	Good Price in Guangzhou/China ?? Hi! anyone knows a good store in Guangzhou/China , who also sales the DVX100 Pal ?? Just asking because my brother is there for buisness right know and will come in February, that would be the best and cheapes way for me to get the DVX100 Pal, cause here it will cost about 4999€.

January 27th, 2003, 10:23 AM	#18
Chung Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 32	Model : AG-DVX100E PAL USD 3,200 Hi! I hope not bother you with my price thing, but you need to understand, that I am not ready to pay the european price(5000Euro), better find another way to get it cheaper. Here is a store who sales it for USD3200. Anyone knows something about this store?? Here their reply. Dear sir, Thank you very much for your inquiry of AG-DVX100E ( PAL). We hope our competitive offer stated below will interest you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Model : AG-DVX100E PAL USD 3,200 Price include delivery by Speed Post / DHL door to door.Germany But exclude your local tax , VAT and duties , if applicable. Payment : Wire Transfer to our bank account to effect delivery Cargo Insurance : Can be arranged with us, if you wish. Order : Booking of stock ( does not require upfront deposit from you ) is required for delivery within 2 weeks time. You need to sign on our proforma Invoice to book. Proforma invoice will follow if you could accept our offer. View detail : http://www.expandore.com/product/DV%20Product/AGDVX100.htm View Catalog : http://www.expandore.com/product/DV%20Product/AG-DVX100(PAL).pdf Our Bank account detail http://www.expandore.com/about/our_company_detail.htm#Bank_%20Details

January 27th, 2003, 08:59 PM	#21
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Allan is quite correct, PAL camcorders will be serviced only in PAL countries having authorized service centers. Plus, the camera's warranty is valid only in the country it was purchased from. Bring one of these PAL units to the U.S. (or Japan), and you will not be able to get it repaired there or get any warranty service/support. Just an FYI, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 28th, 2003, 07:54 AM	#22
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Allan, thanks for the correction. I should have read my first post. I assumed (incorrectly) that Panasonic followed other manufactures by doing International Warranties in Japan. Most companies allow for this in their warranties. It's a shame Panasonic doesn't. I would be much more leery of buying a Panasonic camera overseas and having to rely on third world repair services. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 28th, 2003, 09:36 AM	#23
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Technically these camcorders could be repaired in Japan, be politically they won't be repaired in Japan. A matter of policy, not capability. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 27th, 2003, 05:47 AM	#16
Chema Martinez New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 12	It seems like they are legit because I have been watching them for a a couple of years in manyaplaces of broadcast trading like mandy.com dealing with great prices and i haven´t read a bad review in the internet about them. Also, I checked their company registration number in Singapore and it´s fine. Singapore has great reputation in trading as their policy in customs is really fair. I realize that if they are not legit it should be tons of posts around the net blaming about them and as i said before I haven´t read one yet.

January 27th, 2003, 02:11 PM	#19
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Thanks Chema. I feel better about this then. I too checked around the net and found no bad posts about them. I guess one of us will have to take the plunge. Jeff, If I order the PAL version, would you be interested in checking it out? compared to the NTSC one?

January 27th, 2003, 08:49 PM	#20
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Jeff, Panasonic Japan would not (allthough I'm certain they can) repair any PAL model camcorder. That is their policy. I've mentioned this issue to Joe before. I've reconfirmed this matter at least 3 times. No deal with Pany US too take note!! You'd have to send the camera to PALSVILLE if you need repair or service.

January 30th, 2003, 05:25 PM	#24
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	I just emailed Steve as Expandore. He didn't respond to the last one. If he says we should be able to send to japan, and not back to expandore (Singapore) for maintenance, then the deal is off for me. Maybe thats why his prices are so low for this.

January 31st, 2003, 01:56 PM	#25
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Still no answer from Steve at Expandore. I don't have a problem shipping back to Singapore to fix things. Just wish they would clarify.

February 2nd, 2003, 10:41 AM	#26
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	finally got an answer from Steve at Expandore. He stated I could send it back to them for a Manufacturers defect within the first 3 months of ownership. Is this good? Normal?

February 2nd, 2003, 10:59 AM	#27
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Usually the terms of an International Warranty are the same. In Canon's case 1 year parts and labor (90 days on the heads). I would ask your contact for more details. Where would you send it for warranty work after the 90 day period? Is the first 90 days a warranty repair or an exchange. Is Expandore an Authorized Canon repair facility? If not, will there work on the camera during the first 90 days void the remainder of the warranty (I think it does)? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 2nd, 2003, 12:03 PM	#28
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Jeff, I assume you really meant Panasonic. They appear to be authorized. They may be geared more toward the Euro market (PAL) than the US one. There has to be some international warranty offered by Panasonic. I'll try to find out more.

February 2nd, 2003, 12:07 PM	#29
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Jeff, Steve updated my just a few moments ago. I can send the camera back to Singapore for any repairs if needed. I asked him for the price of an extended warranty. You never did answer if you wanted to check out a PaL version if I got it.

February 2nd, 2003, 12:20 PM	#30
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I would love to see it, but I don't have any PAL gear to try it. I don't even have a PAL monitor to view it on. Sorry. If you work something out let me know. I'd make the trip down to see it and have lunch sometime. Jeff