B&W on dvx100 at DVinfo.net

Kris Galuska · January 16th, 2006, 05:02 PM

Does anyone have any links to B&W footage shot on DVX100?

I'm shooting a Film Noir with the camera. I would like to see what others have achieved

Saturnin Kondratiew · January 16th, 2006, 05:44 PM

shoot color and in post flatten it in CC....i'm sure thats the advice everyone will tell you.

have fun

Kris Galuska · January 17th, 2006, 06:52 PM

That is the best method, especially since I will leave some color in.

I was just looking for examples others have done. I want to see how far they push the camera.

Anyone have any clips?

Jon Fordham · January 18th, 2006, 05:35 PM

Kris,

I have shot a number of black and white projects on the DVX. Unfortunately, none of them are available on the web. But here is my advice...

First of all, I 100% disagree that shooting color and pulling it out in post is the best method. However, the DVX doesn't allow you to pull the color completely out in the camera. So you're stuck working that way.

Second, if you are working with the updated DVX A or B models, go into the menu and select 6. DISPLAY SETUP, then scroll all the way down to page 3 and select EVF COLOR OFF. This will switch the viewfinder to black and white. It will not effect the LCD. This way you can have a color image on the LCD and a quick reference black and white image in the viewfinder.

I have found that I get superior black and white results by setting up the SCENE FILE menu as follows:

DETAIL LEVEL -4
V DTEIAL LEVEL -2
DETAIL CORING +2
CHROMA LEVEL -7
CHROMA PAHSE 0
COLOR TEMP 0
MASTER PED -12
A. IRIS LEVEL 0
GAMMA LOW
KNEE LOW
MATRIX NORM
SKIN TONE DTL OFF
V DETAIL FREQ THIN
PROGRESSIVE 24P

Lastly, I recommend over exposing the image by at least 1/2 a stop. Often times, over exposing a full stop will yield even better results. Basically the above settings will crush your blacks and pull the color down. By over exposing, you push the highlights to pure white. Since the color will be pulled out of the image resulting in black and white, don't sweat the highlights blowing out. In fact, purposely let those skin tones over expose.

This approach will result in a very clean, nicely contrasted, pure black and white image.

Of course, what will really sell the look is proper Film Noir lighting...

January 16th, 2006, 05:02 PM	#1
Kris Galuska Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NY, NY Posts: 59	B&W on dvx100 Does anyone have any links to B&W footage shot on DVX100? I'm shooting a Film Noir with the camera. I would like to see what others have achieved

January 16th, 2006, 05:44 PM	#2
Saturnin Kondratiew Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 310	shoot color and in post flatten it in CC....i'm sure thats the advice everyone will tell you. have fun __________________ My documentaries - http://www.asphaltjunkiez.com

January 18th, 2006, 05:35 PM	#4
Jon Fordham Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 242	Kris, I have shot a number of black and white projects on the DVX. Unfortunately, none of them are available on the web. But here is my advice... First of all, I 100% disagree that shooting color and pulling it out in post is the best method. However, the DVX doesn't allow you to pull the color completely out in the camera. So you're stuck working that way. Second, if you are working with the updated DVX A or B models, go into the menu and select 6. DISPLAY SETUP, then scroll all the way down to page 3 and select EVF COLOR OFF. This will switch the viewfinder to black and white. It will not effect the LCD. This way you can have a color image on the LCD and a quick reference black and white image in the viewfinder. I have found that I get superior black and white results by setting up the SCENE FILE menu as follows: DETAIL LEVEL -4 V DTEIAL LEVEL -2 DETAIL CORING +2 CHROMA LEVEL -7 CHROMA PAHSE 0 COLOR TEMP 0 MASTER PED -12 A. IRIS LEVEL 0 GAMMA LOW KNEE LOW MATRIX NORM SKIN TONE DTL OFF V DETAIL FREQ THIN PROGRESSIVE 24P Lastly, I recommend over exposing the image by at least 1/2 a stop. Often times, over exposing a full stop will yield even better results. Basically the above settings will crush your blacks and pull the color down. By over exposing, you push the highlights to pure white. Since the color will be pulled out of the image resulting in black and white, don't sweat the highlights blowing out. In fact, purposely let those skin tones over expose. This approach will result in a very clean, nicely contrasted, pure black and white image. Of course, what will really sell the look is proper Film Noir lighting... __________________ Jon Fordham Director of Photography www.jonfordham.com

January 17th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#3
Kris Galuska Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NY, NY Posts: 59	That is the best method, especially since I will leave some color in. I was just looking for examples others have done. I want to see how far they push the camera. Anyone have any clips?