Panasonic 4K DVX200 Announced

[Mark Fry]

Originally Posted by Steve Struthers

Can't say I care much for the look of the camera. It looks kinda fruity to me.

What does it matter what it looks like? The image quality and how easy (or not) it is to use are the important things. If you don't like the colour, buy a cover or get your paint-brush out! ;-)

[Jack Zhang]

Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

:54 mark of the video. AVC Ultra at 444. He most likely made a mistake but imagine if that was true.

Panasonic DVX200 - NAB 2015 - YouTube

Cinema5D has a guy from the same booth directly contradicting what the guy said in this video.

The Panasonic DVX200 - 4K Large-Sensor Camcorder (in red) - NAB 2015 on Vimeo

No way it's 4:4:4. It's 8bit 4:2:0 internal. If only Blackmagic made a HDMI 2.0 Hyperdeck Shuttle, but alas, only the 12G Hyperdeck can capture 4:2:2 from this camera.

[Paulo Teixeira]

I did see the other videos before I posted that and I'll still be hoping it'll get at the very least 10 bit and 422. If not than I can easily see this camera being priced anywhere from $4,000 to $4,500 if all it's able to do internally is 8 bit and 420.

[Jonathan Schwartz]

So what would be the depth of field different between this and my AC-160? Is there any way to know this without using the camera?

[Daniel Epstein]

The New Camera is based on MIcro 4/3rd sensor so it is much bigger than the AG 160 1/3 inch sensor so the DVX200 should have much less depth of field

[Ron Evans]

Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

I did see the other videos before I posted that and I'll still be hoping it'll get at the very least 10 bit and 422. If not than I can easily see this camera being priced anywhere from $4,000 to $4,500 if all it's able to do internally is 8 bit and 420.

I think it is 8bit 420 internal and 10bit 422 over HDMI for an external recorder. Did anyone also notice the venting on the right side. Wonder if it has a fan like my FDR-AX1 ?

Ron Evans

[Paulo Teixeira]

That's what I've been afraid of since day one. Heck, I'd settle for 8 bit and 4:2:2.

Still, if it does end up being only 8 bit and 4:2:0 than I'm expecting the price to be around $4,000 and up to $4,500 max.

[Buba Kastorski]

i wonder how fast is the lens, f1,6, constant, faster?

[Jack Zhang]

The press release listed it at F2.8-F4.5, which on a large sensor is slightly better than your typical F3.5-F5.6 lenses. It is very likely de-clicked already since the iris is designed for video.

[Daniel Epstein]

I want to go on record and say that I dislike shooting with lenses that have ramping iris ranges of this magnitude. Defeats the purpose of the zoom in certain situations. If you expose for the long end of the lens and then use the wide you have to readjust the iris. If you are using the wide part of the lens and then zoom in you often end up with underexposed footage.

[Brian Drysdale]

I guess the ramping comes down to how large a lens you want on the camera. There will be a few trade offs going on regarding the size of a fixed lens hand held camera like this, especially with larger sensors.

[Ron Evans]

Originally Posted by Daniel Epstein

I want to go on record and say that I dislike shooting with lenses that have ramping iris ranges of this magnitude. Defeats the purpose of the zoom in certain situations. If you expose for the long end of the lens and then use the wide you have to readjust the iris. If you are using the wide part of the lens and then zoom in you often end up with underexposed footage.

Most handheld cameras of this type have ramping lenses. My Sony NX5U ramps from F1.6 to F3.4 over the 20x zoom range. Not a problem as if one set the iris to F3.4 nothing will change over the zoom range. In lower light then one must take account of this. If you want a 13x 4/3 lens with constant f number then you may need to add a lot more money just for the lens !!

Ron Evans

[Buba Kastorski]

Well, DVX 100 was f1,6 constant, 2,8 - 4,5 - sucks big time,
probably will go Ursa mini, i shoot two cameras all the time anyways.

[Ken Plotin]

Buba,
The DVX 100A is f/1.6 to 2.8 or 3.4 at the 10x end of the zoom.
Ken

[Dylan Couper]

Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale

I guess the ramping comes down to how large a lens you want on the camera. There will be a few trade offs going on regarding the size of a fixed lens hand held camera like this, especially with larger sensors.

Plus of course, you'd probably double the cost of the camera, leaving people something worse to complain about. :)