Does it make sense to buy a DVX at this point? at DVinfo.net

Matt Ramphal · July 13th, 2005, 09:23 AM

With the HVX on the horizion, I'm starting to feel like this camera is borderline obsolete.

My plans are to shoot independent dramas, and perhaps some docs.

Would I be better off to save my money and wait for the next wave of cameras?

I was this so close to buying one, and now I'm reading about the HVX, and even the XL2.

Man, this is hard!

Have I missed the DVX boat?

Robert Mann Z. · July 13th, 2005, 10:38 AM

i will buying my 3rd dvx this summer, its hard to comapare a $3,000 dollar camera to a 10,000 camera, even if all you shoot is dv and for get about the p2 fiasco, is the extra $7 grand worth it for the native 16:9 chips, me think not, in fact i would rather buy two dvxs plus mics and lights tripods for the price of one snorkle cam that might be out sometime next year,

if your looking into getting the jvchd or sony or even the xl2 thats whole other story with many valid points going either way...

i think that the jvc hd with a nice sharp wide lens + a good tripod makes a very lustfull kit, and i would wait the month or so if i could and get that over the xl2

Matt Stahley · July 13th, 2005, 11:51 AM

I think Panny is realeasing a 100b model soon as well so i dont think the cam will be obsolete. Its the price of the P2 cards that drive the cam towards the 10 grand range. If you need the cam now buy it. I just bought a DVX a few weeks ago and kick myself for not getting one sooner. I switched from Sony and couldnt be happier all though i loved my VX2k.

Boyd Ostroff · July 13th, 2005, 12:56 PM

Some time ago Jan Crittenden from Panasonic mentioned the upcoming 100b model. If this is true then it sounds like there won't be a lot of difference. See the following:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....7&postcount=18

Which is part of this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=38727

Ash Greyson · July 13th, 2005, 02:48 PM

The DVX has a large and vibrant community, it wont be dead anytime soon. Until the P2 workflow gets solved in REAL WORLD situations, the cost of upgrading is unknown but certainly prohibitive for many at first. It is my understandinf as well that the 100b is simple a "green" or environmentally friendly 100a....

ash =o)

Andreas Fernbrant · July 13th, 2005, 03:12 PM

I just got one! Love it and it feels good!
/Andreas

Matt Ramphal · July 13th, 2005, 06:54 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm just getting doubtful as the time comes to make a decision.

And does anyone know if there is any possibility that the 100b will shoot in true 16:9? According to that other thread, no... but maybe somebody knows something?

Barry Green · July 13th, 2005, 07:19 PM

Nobody knows more than Jan Crittenden -- she's the product manager for the DVX in the US.

Peter Jefferson · July 13th, 2005, 08:54 PM

hmm.. maybe a 100b would be a tape based HDV model? or Maybe an SD 16:9 version of the HVX?? or maybe it makes a coffee for me while it captures??
WHo knows.. but as mentioned, the DVX wont die for a long time yet.. look at how long the XL1's lasted for......not to mention the PD units..

There will alwyas be a market for SD cameras.. until the time comes where 80% of the public market have the means to watch HD...

Robert Mann Z. · July 13th, 2005, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Ramphal

And does anyone know if there is any possibility that the 100b will shoot in true 16:9? ?

100% it will NOT have 16:9 native chips...

dvx B, as mentioned, improves on the A model only after you turn the camera permanently off...

Mathieu Ghekiere · July 14th, 2005, 09:41 AM

I bought an XL1s last october, when the XL2 was out, from someone from the boards. Okay it was also for budget reasons, but the cam which is almost 4 years old now still shoots gorgeous pictures.
As somebody already said: if you need one now, buy one. If you can wait, wait.

John Hudson · July 14th, 2005, 03:50 PM

Are you ready to shoot your indipendent dramas and docs or do you just want a camera?

If your not ready for that leap then save and wait. But don't let the prospect of a new camera hold you back especially when content is king anyway. Because a year after the HVX we're gonna hear about something else on the horizon.

Matt Ramphal · July 14th, 2005, 07:20 PM

Its not so much that I need one right now. I just feel like the longer I put off comitting to a camera, the more unlikely it is that I will ever get any of my ideas actually shot.

John Hudson · July 14th, 2005, 08:19 PM

Understand.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Sounds like you want the HVX. PErhaps spend this time doing massive pre and prep for you work?

July 13th, 2005, 09:23 AM	#1
Matt Ramphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 27	Does it make sense to buy a DVX at this point? With the HVX on the horizion, I'm starting to feel like this camera is borderline obsolete. My plans are to shoot independent dramas, and perhaps some docs. Would I be better off to save my money and wait for the next wave of cameras? I was this so close to buying one, and now I'm reading about the HVX, and even the XL2. Man, this is hard! Have I missed the DVX boat?

July 13th, 2005, 10:38 AM	#2
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	no contest i will buying my 3rd dvx this summer, its hard to comapare a $3,000 dollar camera to a 10,000 camera, even if all you shoot is dv and for get about the p2 fiasco, is the extra $7 grand worth it for the native 16:9 chips, me think not, in fact i would rather buy two dvxs plus mics and lights tripods for the price of one snorkle cam that might be out sometime next year, if your looking into getting the jvchd or sony or even the xl2 thats whole other story with many valid points going either way... i think that the jvc hd with a nice sharp wide lens + a good tripod makes a very lustfull kit, and i would wait the month or so if i could and get that over the xl2

July 13th, 2005, 11:51 AM	#3
Matt Stahley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 648	I think Panny is realeasing a 100b model soon as well so i dont think the cam will be obsolete. Its the price of the P2 cards that drive the cam towards the 10 grand range. If you need the cam now buy it. I just bought a DVX a few weeks ago and kick myself for not getting one sooner. I switched from Sony and couldnt be happier all though i loved my VX2k.

July 13th, 2005, 12:56 PM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Some time ago Jan Crittenden from Panasonic mentioned the upcoming 100b model. If this is true then it sounds like there won't be a lot of difference. See the following: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....7&postcount=18 Which is part of this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=38727

July 13th, 2005, 02:48 PM	#5
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	The DVX has a large and vibrant community, it wont be dead anytime soon. Until the P2 workflow gets solved in REAL WORLD situations, the cost of upgrading is unknown but certainly prohibitive for many at first. It is my understandinf as well that the 100b is simple a "green" or environmentally friendly 100a.... ash =o)

July 13th, 2005, 03:12 PM	#6
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	I just got one! Love it and it feels good! /Andreas

July 13th, 2005, 06:54 PM	#7
Matt Ramphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 27	Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm just getting doubtful as the time comes to make a decision. And does anyone know if there is any possibility that the 100b will shoot in true 16:9? According to that other thread, no... but maybe somebody knows something?

July 13th, 2005, 07:19 PM	#8
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Nobody knows more than Jan Crittenden -- she's the product manager for the DVX in the US.

July 13th, 2005, 08:54 PM	#9
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	hmm.. maybe a 100b would be a tape based HDV model? or Maybe an SD 16:9 version of the HVX?? or maybe it makes a coffee for me while it captures?? WHo knows.. but as mentioned, the DVX wont die for a long time yet.. look at how long the XL1's lasted for......not to mention the PD units.. There will alwyas be a market for SD cameras.. until the time comes where 80% of the public market have the means to watch HD...

July 14th, 2005, 09:41 AM	#11
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	I bought an XL1s last october, when the XL2 was out, from someone from the boards. Okay it was also for budget reasons, but the cam which is almost 4 years old now still shoots gorgeous pictures. As somebody already said: if you need one now, buy one. If you can wait, wait.

July 14th, 2005, 03:50 PM	#12
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Are you ready to shoot your indipendent dramas and docs or do you just want a camera? If your not ready for that leap then save and wait. But don't let the prospect of a new camera hold you back especially when content is king anyway. Because a year after the HVX we're gonna hear about something else on the horizon.

July 14th, 2005, 07:20 PM	#13
Matt Ramphal Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 27	Its not so much that I need one right now. I just feel like the longer I put off comitting to a camera, the more unlikely it is that I will ever get any of my ideas actually shot.

July 14th, 2005, 08:19 PM	#14
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Understand. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Sounds like you want the HVX. PErhaps spend this time doing massive pre and prep for you work?