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Old October 31st, 2002, 11:56 PM   #1
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PAL Cameras under 60Hz Flourescent Lighting in the USA

Hi all,

All this "hype" (is that the appropriate word) of the PAL version of the DVX100 has me a bit excited... 25p + extra resolution sounds great.

But I've also heard horror stories about filming under 60Hz flourescent lights using PAL equipment. I live in the USA and would like to know what do you do to reduce it?

I've heard of something called a Ballast, but I suspect it is not something you can hook up to the flourescent lights in your house / office.

So is it practical to use a PAL camcorder in the USA with so much flourescent lighting?

Tim

P.S. I'm using this to make inexpensive movies, not weddings or videos of my kids.
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Old November 1st, 2002, 02:13 AM   #2
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all flouroscents lights have a ballast. It's what drives the particles in it to make light. ;)

the better ones get rid of that 60Hz flicker. And a good one isn't that much more than a low-grade ballast. Only makes a real difference if you're thinking of buying in the tens or hundreds.
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Old November 1st, 2002, 08:16 AM   #3
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Err... ok... I'm a bit confused

(Note: I have no lighting experience other than turning on my light switch on and off in my house. =P)

So...

I'm looking at the flourescent bulb in my house, hanging from my ceiling. Inside the bulb is a ballast?

Does this mean I can get rid of the 60Hz <-> 50Hz PAL camera flicker by replacing my flourescent bulb in the ceiling?

Tim
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Old November 1st, 2002, 03:05 PM   #4
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No, the ballast is part of the fixture. You would have rewire each fixture witha new ballast.

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Old November 1st, 2002, 11:38 PM   #5
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Re: PAL Cameras under 60Hz Flourescent Lighting in the USA

<<<-- Originally posted by TimOtholt : Hi all,

But I've also heard horror stories about filming under 60Hz flourescent lights using PAL equipment. I live in the USA and would like to know what do you do to reduce it?

So is it practical to use a PAL camcorder in the USA with so much flourescent lighting?

-->>>

Tim, if you set the shutter speed to 1/60th sec the flicker
is eliminated. Sony PAL cameras have this option and I
assume the PAL DVX100 will as well.

For more info see http://www.dvfilm.com/book.htm
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Old November 2nd, 2002, 01:23 AM   #6
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Having a PAL cam, I've noticed flickering under the cheap fluorescent lighting, but non under tungsten. If you want to do serious shooting, I suggest getting the right kind of lighting equipment. It's not expensive if you know where to look. Bryan Beasleigh would be the member to give you some good lighting advice.
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Old November 2nd, 2002, 07:15 AM   #7
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Tim,
Just to close the loop on the question of the ballast in a fluorescent light fixture. It is the transformer and is usually a heavy rectangular black box that is mounted in the center of the fixture (although I have seen them mounted on the side of built-in commercial types of fixtures).

The ballast is usually the thing that you smell when a fluorescent fixture is about to burn-out; "Does anyone smell something like electrical wire burning?" Most times it's the ballast.

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Old November 2nd, 2002, 11:05 AM   #8
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Thanks all, Nick included, for filling in all the information. Mucho appreciated all!

Tim

P.S. I will probably get the NTSC version due to price, college student and all.
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