Info on PAL DVX100

Tim Otholt · November 1st, 2002, 08:05 PM

Based upon the rumor:

Street prices for the DVX100 in the USA for the NTSC version is $3395. If the PAL street price is &3400 (pounds), at a 1.5639 conversion rate, that would place it at $5317 US. And then you need to nab DV Atlantis to convert to NTSC.

3400 pounds = 5,317.19 US dollars (noon) ratio 1.5639 (0.6394)

I think for _my_ needs, the PAL version is out of the question, since I would also need a PAL monitor and other PAL equipment to use on the acquisition side. For myself, this cool camera is already out of my budget, but I think I'm going to get one anyway. =P

Tim

Joe Carney · November 2nd, 2002, 11:39 AM

Tim, Vegas Video has excellent PAL to NTSC coversion features. You can capture / edit in PAL then do final render to NTSC. Works great. Works just as good for NTSC to PAL .

I've tried the trial version of DVfilmMaker and can't get it to work at all. Creates really large video files filled with nothing but the dvfilmmaker watermark and grey background. Since I'm not a registered user, I can't get support either. Others seem to have had better luck with it.

Marcus van Bavel · November 2nd, 2002, 10:58 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by jojolimited : I've tried the trial version of DVfilmMaker and can't get it to work at all. >>>

You might try the new release, 1.06a for Maker and 1.05a for Atlantis. Several bugs relating to DV-AVI's were fixed.

Here are the links:
http://www.dvfilm.com/maker
http://www.dvfilm.com/atlantis

<<<--- Since I'm not a registered user, I can't get support either. -->>>

Who says? I don't recall any email from you so I guess you didn't even try. We aim for 100% satisfaction and frequently help users trying the demo version, because that's where bugs are reported first.

For progressive-scan PAL, Vegas and DVFilm Atlantis yield similar results, except that Atlantis is much faster.

For interlaced PAL however, the way Vegas does the conversion is entirely different. It blends fields of PAL together to create fields of NTSC, whereas Atlantis treats each PAL frame as a progressive-scan image (converting the PAL frames to progressive-scan with a selective deinterlacer). Atlantis simulates a film to NTSC conversion, and so it's really a film-look converter, not a general purpose converter.

Vegas can be made to do this in 2 passes, but it's deinterlacer is not selective, it deinterlaces even where no motion is present, cutting your vertical resolution by 50%.

Atlantis is also 1/3rd the cost, $145 vs $420.

Joe Carney · November 3rd, 2002, 11:27 AM

The latest version did it(dated 11/.02/2002). thanks. Vegas does a lot more than
conversion so the price comparison is not really fair.
Still I like what the dvfilmmaker is doing. I'm gonna try to more clips and see what happens.

Joe Carney · November 3rd, 2002, 03:01 PM

Marcus, btw, I joined the yahoo group dvfilmtransfer. the results from my little Pana 1chip camera were very impressive.

Philippe Orlando · February 12th, 2003, 06:08 PM

Before jumping on Atlantis check the link below:
http://www.gthelectronics.com/featurec.htm

November 1st, 2002, 08:05 PM	#16
Tim Otholt New Boot Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 12	Price Based upon the rumor: Street prices for the DVX100 in the USA for the NTSC version is $3395. If the PAL street price is &3400 (pounds), at a 1.5639 conversion rate, that would place it at $5317 US. And then you need to nab DV Atlantis to convert to NTSC. 3400 pounds = 5,317.19 US dollars (noon) ratio 1.5639 (0.6394) I think for _my_ needs, the PAL version is out of the question, since I would also need a PAL monitor and other PAL equipment to use on the acquisition side. For myself, this cool camera is already out of my budget, but I think I'm going to get one anyway. =P Tim

February 12th, 2003, 06:08 PM	#21
Philippe Orlando New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 22	Atlantis VS ACE Before jumping on Atlantis check the link below: http://www.gthelectronics.com/featurec.htm

November 2nd, 2002, 11:39 AM	#17
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Tim, Vegas Video has excellent PAL to NTSC coversion features. You can capture / edit in PAL then do final render to NTSC. Works great. Works just as good for NTSC to PAL . I've tried the trial version of DVfilmMaker and can't get it to work at all. Creates really large video files filled with nothing but the dvfilmmaker watermark and grey background. Since I'm not a registered user, I can't get support either. Others seem to have had better luck with it.

November 2nd, 2002, 10:58 PM	#18
Marcus van Bavel Contributor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin TX Posts: 176	<<<-- Originally posted by jojolimited : I've tried the trial version of DVfilmMaker and can't get it to work at all. >>> You might try the new release, 1.06a for Maker and 1.05a for Atlantis. Several bugs relating to DV-AVI's were fixed. Here are the links: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker http://www.dvfilm.com/atlantis <<<--- Since I'm not a registered user, I can't get support either. -->>> Who says? I don't recall any email from you so I guess you didn't even try. We aim for 100% satisfaction and frequently help users trying the demo version, because that's where bugs are reported first. For progressive-scan PAL, Vegas and DVFilm Atlantis yield similar results, except that Atlantis is much faster. For interlaced PAL however, the way Vegas does the conversion is entirely different. It blends fields of PAL together to create fields of NTSC, whereas Atlantis treats each PAL frame as a progressive-scan image (converting the PAL frames to progressive-scan with a selective deinterlacer). Atlantis simulates a film to NTSC conversion, and so it's really a film-look converter, not a general purpose converter. Vegas can be made to do this in 2 passes, but it's deinterlacer is not selective, it deinterlaces even where no motion is present, cutting your vertical resolution by 50%. Atlantis is also 1/3rd the cost, $145 vs $420.

November 3rd, 2002, 11:27 AM	#19
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The latest version did it(dated 11/.02/2002). thanks. Vegas does a lot more than conversion so the price comparison is not really fair. Still I like what the dvfilmmaker is doing. I'm gonna try to more clips and see what happens.

November 3rd, 2002, 03:01 PM	#20
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Marcus, btw, I joined the yahoo group dvfilmtransfer. the results from my little Pana 1chip camera were very impressive.