Various questions about Panasonic DVC and DVX

Ozan Biron · October 26th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Im going to be shooting a music video in the next couple of weeks. I know that the DVX100 can only shoot at certain frame rates. Is it possible to do the same effect like film cameras!

Record in regular 24 or 60i etc... but have a different play back speeds of the song. Instead recording and playing the song at normal (100%) Slow the song down to 70% and still record in 24 regular. In post can I speed up the video to 130% to match the normal speed (100%) of the video.

Is it possible to get the same effect like film cameras.... however film cameras can record at different frame rates to achieve the effect.

I tried it a couple of times when I was editing. It worked for beginning of the song however near the end the song started to become unsync with the video. Does it have to do with the 29.97 frame rate?

Should the song be slowed down to a certain speed? in order to match up with the 29.97 frame rate?

I hope I explained this question as clearly as I can... eeeek!

Stephen van Vuuren · October 28th, 2003, 12:39 PM

This is from Jim Lea (I replied and asked him what tapes he was using):

Hi Stephan,

This is Jim Lea from the Outer Banks. I am in Zambia in Southern Africa for 7 weeks with a brand new AJ-DVX 100. I am having problems with it.

I've tried to post to the DVi Community, but I am not allowed to. Maybe you can post for me or maybe you might know what is happening.

When I am in the camera mode, the tape will intermittently unthread and then go into a FF/RW mode to find the end of the tape. I takes about 30 seconds to complete the process, and I am missing opportunities to shoot because of it. I am not having any problems with lost shots or broken timecode, but this problem is very annoying.

I've tried to clean the heads, but that has not helped.

Have you heard of anything like this before?

Please post this to the message board to see if any other people have found this problem. I am only able to get on the Internet about once a week, so it will be some time before I can get back to the forum.

Thank you very much,

James G. Lea
DV News Network
www.dvnn.com

Gerald Shropshire · November 5th, 2003, 02:03 PM

I would like to know the importance of time coding as it relates to the shooting and editing process. Also, how is it applied to tape using the DVX 100.

Thanks

Gerald

Ong Wan Shu · November 17th, 2003, 09:30 AM

hi all,

Just wondering for those of you guys who have shot 24p standard with this camera, what are the various settings you guys use and why?

I have seen the settings recommended when shooting in 24p advance for film transfer, just wondering if there is anything similar as a guideline for shooting in 24p standard.

Cheers
Wan Shu

Trent Robinson · November 25th, 2003, 08:34 AM

I opened my local paper today (Tallahassee Democrat) and on the front page was a story on a documentary that was produced on one of our local high school football teams. The accompanying large color photograph shows a videographer holding a DVX100 over his head for a shot of some players. There are two more photos which show the DVX100 in action. The documentary was produced by JAK Productions out of Lawrenceville, GA and the first part will air this Thursday Nov. 27 at 5:00pm on Sunshine Network. Not sure if you can get Sunshine outside of Florida. The second part will air in February. Here is a link to the story...

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/7343219.htm

I am very interested in seeing the footage, as I am debating that age old question whether to buy a DVX100 or XL1S. I do video production for my church (man on street videos, interviews, short video dramas, event documentaries). One day I think I have settled on one camera then the next day I change my mind.
Arrrgghhhhh!!

Craig Kitchens · December 12th, 2003, 01:08 PM

I am planning a Southern California DVX users group meeting for December 20th. If you plan to attend please contact me, Craig Kitchens, either by email or by phone. The meeting will be held in Orange County.
My email is ckalan1@netzero.net
My phone number is 714 538-2484.
There is a guest speaker who will be speaking on fund raising for independent films.
I realize this is short notice but it is a start. I need to know how many are planning on attending.
Thanks,
Craig

Stuart Brontman · January 19th, 2004, 04:43 PM

Since I can't find a dealer with a 100a to demo, are there any users out there that have seen its 60i or 30p footage and could compare it to something I'd get from a 2/3" ENG camera. Would it be good enough to mix clips (with some post done)? I'm about to purchase the Ikegami HL-DV7AW, but need a more portable camera for some field shots in environments I don't want to bring the Ikegami into. This is all corporate work...

Thanks for your input!

Stuart

Craig Kitchens · January 24th, 2004, 04:28 PM

Southern California Users Meeting
DVX100 in detail –
When: February 12th
Mixer and Refreshments – 6:15PM –7:00PM
Presentation 7:00PM – 9:00PM
Where: Irvine Studios
7 Whatney Street Building B
Irvine, CA 92616
Phone 949 460-7777
Who will be there: Panasonic Product Specialists
Jan Crittenden
Steve Milley
What: Jan and Steve will be answering questions that users have about the camera. They will be talking about the common issues that everyone has and about specific issues that have been submitted by DVX100 owners. They will also be discussing the differences between the DVX100 and DVX100A.

Contact Information:
Craig Kitchens
Ckalan1@netzero.net
714 538-2484

Email your questions to me ASAP so I can forward them to Jan and Steve.
We need to know ASAP, no later than February 10th, how many plan on attending. Craig also needs a volunteers to help with name tags, videotaping the meeting and someone to take pictures of the event.

Michael Frank · February 2nd, 2004, 07:21 PM

I just shot some footage with the anamorphic adaptor before dubbing it across to Pioneer DVD recorder in 16:9. Having watched the DVD back on a 4:3 monitor with letterbox, the footage still looks a little squeezed. Has anyone else had a problem with the anamorphic image still looking a touch squeezed after conversion?

Tony Levelle · February 6th, 2004, 02:45 AM

Just experimenting with synchro scan to shoot a picture of my computer screen, and noticed an oddity with my DVC80.

The menu control only works when the LCD screen is flipped out.

The control doesn't appear work through the viewfinder. All other menu controls work through the viewfinder when the lcd screen is closed.

Wierd.

However, the synchro scan really works! When I tune the control the computer screen flicker suddenly disappears. I get a solid, flicker-free image of the screen.

(Synchro scan is a DVC80 menu option that lets you fine tune shutter speed so you can shoot computer screens without flicker or bars.)

cheers,
tony

Bryan Roberts · February 9th, 2004, 01:37 PM

Hey all. I am in the game of a mic purchase and after some research, I like the AT-897 over the spotty quality of the oktava set and the me66 steep price but I was curious if any users have experience with the AT-897 and the DVX100 without running it through any mixers etc., just straight into the xlr ports and setting the levels from shot to shot in camera? Is the DVX100 a good camera for just running this type mic and setting the levels internally? If so, the ~$279 seems like a steal. This will be my only mic I plan to use and will be filming mainly dialogue in settings that will be outside 60% of the time and the rest inside but also plan for it to capture some minimal wild sounds etc.

Marc Young · February 14th, 2004, 05:23 PM

How do you guys catalog your scenes? Do you use Scenalyzer or some other capture program?

I actually dump the whole tape to a Panasonic dmr-e100 dvd recorder using firewire. Then I burn from the hard drive to a dvd-r blank at 4X. It provides a lower res backup of the footage but a dvd is faster to scan than a tape. If I have the time, I also put chapter markers to see where the scenes are timewise. When it comes time to capture footage on the computer, the whole process is a lot faster since you know what's on each tape and where.

Since I also preview tape footage on the camera and use the FF and REW buttons on the dvx100, I have also run into the problem of black footage where add-on recordings have been made. That's why having an mpeg-2 copy of the whole tape on dvd-r is a blessing.

David Bass · February 15th, 2004, 02:58 AM

Can anyone help please.Ive just upgraded my dvx100 to a dvx100a pal. I was pleased with the 100 but Iam even more pleased with the 100a.The improvements are helpful in control along with picture and settings improvements.
My problem is Ive also bought the pana anamorphic lens and have shot some footage in scene file5 25p [thick]. I have a canopus storm 2 capture card with premiere pro.
Which settings should i use to edit this footage?
Should it be 4/3 or 16/9
Should it be anamorphic
Should it be [no fields progressive scan]
When ive been playing with these settings a warning appears that states that my capture card does not support this format?
I presume this would mean the progressive part rather than the anamorphic.As you can see any tips or help would be apreciated
thanks in advance

Zen Amen · February 15th, 2004, 01:56 PM

i am new to video and recently purchased the DVX 100 ag,
i need to know what the various shutter speeds are useful for.
i have just been using the 1/60 speed with good results, why would i need to utilize the other settings? I would also like to learn more basics of camera technique -- Can anyone recommend any free online tutorials for shooting, lighting, how to get a pro look in my productions?
I am interested in shooting in the documentary styles.
one last request, can anyone reccomend a good tripod with decent to good smooth panning for less than $400
thanks

Ryan Wachter · February 24th, 2004, 06:44 PM

Does anyone do this with thier panny's and if so does someone have enough experience with it to dumb it down for me a bit. What is involved?
thanks

October 26th, 2003, 04:20 PM	#76
Ozan Biron Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 137	Video speeds with music Im going to be shooting a music video in the next couple of weeks. I know that the DVX100 can only shoot at certain frame rates. Is it possible to do the same effect like film cameras! Record in regular 24 or 60i etc... but have a different play back speeds of the song. Instead recording and playing the song at normal (100%) Slow the song down to 70% and still record in 24 regular. In post can I speed up the video to 130% to match the normal speed (100%) of the video. Is it possible to get the same effect like film cameras.... however film cameras can record at different frame rates to achieve the effect. I tried it a couple of times when I was editing. It worked for beginning of the song however near the end the song started to become unsync with the video. Does it have to do with the 29.97 frame rate? Should the song be slowed down to a certain speed? in order to match up with the 29.97 frame rate? I hope I explained this question as clearly as I can... eeeek!

October 28th, 2003, 12:39 PM	#77
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	tape will intermittently unthread and then go into a FF/RW mode This is from Jim Lea (I replied and asked him what tapes he was using): Hi Stephan, This is Jim Lea from the Outer Banks. I am in Zambia in Southern Africa for 7 weeks with a brand new AJ-DVX 100. I am having problems with it. I've tried to post to the DVi Community, but I am not allowed to. Maybe you can post for me or maybe you might know what is happening. When I am in the camera mode, the tape will intermittently unthread and then go into a FF/RW mode to find the end of the tape. I takes about 30 seconds to complete the process, and I am missing opportunities to shoot because of it. I am not having any problems with lost shots or broken timecode, but this problem is very annoying. I've tried to clean the heads, but that has not helped. Have you heard of anything like this before? Please post this to the message board to see if any other people have found this problem. I am only able to get on the Internet about once a week, so it will be some time before I can get back to the forum. Thank you very much, James G. Lea DV News Network www.dvnn.com __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

November 5th, 2003, 02:03 PM	#78
Gerald Shropshire New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 6	DVX 100 Time Coding I would like to know the importance of time coding as it relates to the shooting and editing process. Also, how is it applied to tape using the DVX 100. Thanks Gerald

November 17th, 2003, 09:30 AM	#79
Ong Wan Shu Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 74	Settings when shooting in 24p standard hi all, Just wondering for those of you guys who have shot 24p standard with this camera, what are the various settings you guys use and why? I have seen the settings recommended when shooting in 24p advance for film transfer, just wondering if there is anything similar as a guideline for shooting in 24p standard. Cheers Wan Shu

November 25th, 2003, 08:34 AM	#80
Trent Robinson Tourist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2	New Documentary shot on DVX100 I opened my local paper today (Tallahassee Democrat) and on the front page was a story on a documentary that was produced on one of our local high school football teams. The accompanying large color photograph shows a videographer holding a DVX100 over his head for a shot of some players. There are two more photos which show the DVX100 in action. The documentary was produced by JAK Productions out of Lawrenceville, GA and the first part will air this Thursday Nov. 27 at 5:00pm on Sunshine Network. Not sure if you can get Sunshine outside of Florida. The second part will air in February. Here is a link to the story... http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/7343219.htm I am very interested in seeing the footage, as I am debating that age old question whether to buy a DVX100 or XL1S. I do video production for my church (man on street videos, interviews, short video dramas, event documentaries). One day I think I have settled on one camera then the next day I change my mind. Arrrgghhhhh!!

December 12th, 2003, 01:08 PM	#81
Craig Kitchens New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 5	SoCal DVX Users Group Meeting I am planning a Southern California DVX users group meeting for December 20th. If you plan to attend please contact me, Craig Kitchens, either by email or by phone. The meeting will be held in Orange County. My email is ckalan1@netzero.net My phone number is 714 538-2484. There is a guest speaker who will be speaking on fund raising for independent films. I realize this is short notice but it is a start. I need to know how many are planning on attending. Thanks, Craig

January 19th, 2004, 04:43 PM	#82
Stuart Brontman Contributor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 228	DVX-100a footage intercut with ENG footage Since I can't find a dealer with a 100a to demo, are there any users out there that have seen its 60i or 30p footage and could compare it to something I'd get from a 2/3" ENG camera. Would it be good enough to mix clips (with some post done)? I'm about to purchase the Ikegami HL-DV7AW, but need a more portable camera for some field shots in environments I don't want to bring the Ikegami into. This is all corporate work... Thanks for your input! Stuart

January 24th, 2004, 04:28 PM	#83
Craig Kitchens New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 5	Southern California Users Meeting Southern California Users Meeting DVX100 in detail – When: February 12th Mixer and Refreshments – 6:15PM –7:00PM Presentation 7:00PM – 9:00PM Where: Irvine Studios 7 Whatney Street Building B Irvine, CA 92616 Phone 949 460-7777 Who will be there: Panasonic Product Specialists Jan Crittenden Steve Milley What: Jan and Steve will be answering questions that users have about the camera. They will be talking about the common issues that everyone has and about specific issues that have been submitted by DVX100 owners. They will also be discussing the differences between the DVX100 and DVX100A. Contact Information: Craig Kitchens Ckalan1@netzero.net 714 538-2484 Email your questions to me ASAP so I can forward them to Jan and Steve. We need to know ASAP, no later than February 10th, how many plan on attending. Craig also needs a volunteers to help with name tags, videotaping the meeting and someone to take pictures of the event.

February 2nd, 2004, 07:21 PM	#84
Michael Frank New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 13	16:9 still looks squeezed I just shot some footage with the anamorphic adaptor before dubbing it across to Pioneer DVD recorder in 16:9. Having watched the DVD back on a 4:3 monitor with letterbox, the footage still looks a little squeezed. Has anyone else had a problem with the anamorphic image still looking a touch squeezed after conversion?

February 6th, 2004, 02:45 AM	#85
Tony Levelle Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lower Lake, Ca. Posts: 33	DVC80 synchro scan oddity Just experimenting with synchro scan to shoot a picture of my computer screen, and noticed an oddity with my DVC80. The menu control only works when the LCD screen is flipped out. The control doesn't appear work through the viewfinder. All other menu controls work through the viewfinder when the lcd screen is closed. Wierd. However, the synchro scan really works! When I tune the control the computer screen flicker suddenly disappears. I get a solid, flicker-free image of the screen. (Synchro scan is a DVC80 menu option that lets you fine tune shutter speed so you can shoot computer screens without flicker or bars.) cheers, tony __________________ A true friend's eye is a good mirror. Irish proverb

February 9th, 2004, 01:37 PM	#86
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	AT-897 MIC and its levels on a DVX100 Hey all. I am in the game of a mic purchase and after some research, I like the AT-897 over the spotty quality of the oktava set and the me66 steep price but I was curious if any users have experience with the AT-897 and the DVX100 without running it through any mixers etc., just straight into the xlr ports and setting the levels from shot to shot in camera? Is the DVX100 a good camera for just running this type mic and setting the levels internally? If so, the ~$279 seems like a steal. This will be my only mic I plan to use and will be filming mainly dialogue in settings that will be outside 60% of the time and the rest inside but also plan for it to capture some minimal wild sounds etc.

February 14th, 2004, 05:23 PM	#87
Marc Young Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 112	How do you guys catalog your scenes? Do you use Scenalyzer or some other capture program? I actually dump the whole tape to a Panasonic dmr-e100 dvd recorder using firewire. Then I burn from the hard drive to a dvd-r blank at 4X. It provides a lower res backup of the footage but a dvd is faster to scan than a tape. If I have the time, I also put chapter markers to see where the scenes are timewise. When it comes time to capture footage on the computer, the whole process is a lot faster since you know what's on each tape and where. Since I also preview tape footage on the camera and use the FF and REW buttons on the dvx100, I have also run into the problem of black footage where add-on recordings have been made. That's why having an mpeg-2 copy of the whole tape on dvd-r is a blessing.

February 15th, 2004, 02:58 AM	#88
David Bass New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: u.k. Posts: 23	anamorphic/25p/prem/pro Can anyone help please.Ive just upgraded my dvx100 to a dvx100a pal. I was pleased with the 100 but Iam even more pleased with the 100a.The improvements are helpful in control along with picture and settings improvements. My problem is Ive also bought the pana anamorphic lens and have shot some footage in scene file5 25p [thick]. I have a canopus storm 2 capture card with premiere pro. Which settings should i use to edit this footage? Should it be 4/3 or 16/9 Should it be anamorphic Should it be [no fields progressive scan] When ive been playing with these settings a warning appears that states that my capture card does not support this format? I presume this would mean the progressive part rather than the anamorphic.As you can see any tips or help would be apreciated thanks in advance

February 15th, 2004, 01:56 PM	#89
Zen Amen Tourist Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1	DVX 100 ag shutter speed settings? i am new to video and recently purchased the DVX 100 ag, i need to know what the various shutter speeds are useful for. i have just been using the 1/60 speed with good results, why would i need to utilize the other settings? I would also like to learn more basics of camera technique -- Can anyone recommend any free online tutorials for shooting, lighting, how to get a pro look in my productions? I am interested in shooting in the documentary styles. one last request, can anyone reccomend a good tripod with decent to good smooth panning for less than $400 thanks

February 24th, 2004, 06:44 PM	#90
Ryan Wachter Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 164	camera allignment with greyscale charts Does anyone do this with thier panny's and if so does someone have enough experience with it to dumb it down for me a bit. What is involved? thanks