AG-LA7200G Anamorphic 16:9 Lens Adaptor at DVinfo.net

October 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM

I visited the DVX-100 resource page (http://www.mycen.com.my/dv/dvx100specs.html) and see that under "optional accessories", a 16:9 conversion lens is listed, even a model number (AG-LA7200G), but I can find no reference anywhere on that site or elsewhere about it.

This is the last item I am waiting for before deciding to buy this camera. It is also the primary reason I won't buy an XL1-s, since there appears to be no way to get real 16:9 on that camera.

Ted Jan · October 22nd, 2002, 01:32 PM

unfortunately it's not out yet. Panasonic has listed in the manual that there are several accessories that will be made available sometime next year, and the 16:9 lens is one of them.

Chris Hurd · October 22nd, 2002, 02:10 PM

Most likely this anamorphic adapter will fit the XL1/XL1S as well, as it's a 72mm diameter. As long as the threads are the same, shouldn't be a problem.

Terrence Smith · October 22nd, 2002, 02:30 PM

It is unclear (at this time) if the Panasonic anamorphic adapter is identical to the one reportedly under design by Century Precision. The actual lens diameter is apparently 58mm and the oversized 72mm filter thread allows the mounting of optical accessories with zoom-through and no vignetting.

Chris Hurd · October 22nd, 2002, 04:11 PM

<< The actual lens diameter is apparently 58mm >>

Quite correct -- my mistake; sorry.

katelins · November 11th, 2002, 12:16 AM

Surfing around and I saw that ZGC is selling a (new?) 16:9 for the AG-DVX100 from Optex, or at least selling a model that is confirmed to work with the Panasonic. Does something like this work with one of those Cavision matte boxes?

Clayton Farr · November 11th, 2002, 08:44 PM

At first I was unable to find it on their site, but here is a direct link should anyone need it:

http://www.zgc.com/html/anamorphic_attachment.html#xl1

(scroll up page for general information on adapter)

- Clayton

Nick Kerpchar · November 15th, 2002, 07:24 PM

Clayton,
Have you been running any more test with the DVX-100? I recall your doing a great first review with a promise of a follow-up. I was just curious if you started the follow-up yet.

Thanks, Nick

Clayton Farr · November 16th, 2002, 12:24 AM

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the nice feedback. I am still in the midst of pulling together said tests amidst using the camera currently on a short film.

Here is a link to some frame grabs (as native DV within quicktime movie) from this project:

ftp://ftp.globalartways.org/outgoing...oot_110902.mov
(ftp://ftp.globalartways.org/outgoing/dvx100_shoot_110902.mov)

In short, I have been *very* impressed with the capabilities of the camera when used thoughtfully. I think these frames are good examples of what it can do with some decent lighting. (As mentioned in the file, if at all possible view them out on a reasonably calibrated NTSC monitor to really see what they look like.)

I am currently touching base with Chris to post some clips of this footage. There is not a whole lot of motion but even so the results seem to do a very nice job of emulating film on a production or television monitor (haven't performed the step of converting footage to film and projecting yet...)

Hope this helps - I'd be interested in hearing anyone's feedback,
Clayton

(Also, I didn't intend to hijack this thread. If Chris, Stephen, or Terrence think that this post would be better moved somewhere else or under a different heading please feel free to do so...)

katelins · November 16th, 2002, 03:06 AM

No problem Clayton. I think we're all waiting on solid information for this camcorder - I know I am. Looking forward to your further contributions, thanks for doing so.

(For those of you who were wondering, the Cavision matte box fitted for the DVX100 will work with the current Optex anamorphic adapter according to my friend who is buying one from them soon)

Nick Kerpchar · November 16th, 2002, 06:27 AM

Thanks Clayton. Wonder if you would give you opinion on the following question. Although the DVX100's most unique feature is the film mode, how would you rate it as a camcorder for general amateur use?

In other words, if a consumer (not interested in making film-look movies) wanted a good, solid camcorder that delivered a good picture (more natural color as opposed to the blue side of the spectrum and a sharp detail as opposed to soft detail), would this be a camcorder to consider?

Thanks for continuing to share your experiences with the DVX100.

Nick

John Jay · December 9th, 2002, 05:42 PM

http://www.optexint.com/digivid/xlanam.htm

built for 72mm optics

around $2.5K

Frank Granovski · December 14th, 2002, 09:27 PM

Yup. These adaptors aren't cheap. Perhaps just use the built-in 16:9 mode, or wait a few years for prosumer HD cams to come out.

Dean Harrington · January 1st, 2003, 03:12 PM

and constrained. I'd wait for Pana to come out with something.

Chris Hurd · January 1st, 2003, 03:29 PM

Century Optics showed a prototype 72mm anamorphic at DV Expo West; expect pricing around $1500 and availability hopefully before NAB.

October 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM	#1
Chris McElroy Posts: n/a	AG-LA7200G Anamorphic 16:9 Lens Adaptor I visited the DVX-100 resource page (http://www.mycen.com.my/dv/dvx100specs.html) and see that under "optional accessories", a 16:9 conversion lens is listed, even a model number (AG-LA7200G), but I can find no reference anywhere on that site or elsewhere about it. This is the last item I am waiting for before deciding to buy this camera. It is also the primary reason I won't buy an XL1-s, since there appears to be no way to get real 16:9 on that camera.

October 22nd, 2002, 02:10 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Most likely this anamorphic adapter will fit the XL1/XL1S as well, as it's a 72mm diameter. As long as the threads are the same, shouldn't be a problem. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 22nd, 2002, 04:11 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	<< The actual lens diameter is apparently 58mm >> Quite correct -- my mistake; sorry. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 11th, 2002, 12:16 AM	#6
katelins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 31	16:9 adapter available at ZGC? Surfing around and I saw that ZGC is selling a (new?) 16:9 for the AG-DVX100 from Optex, or at least selling a model that is confirmed to work with the Panasonic. Does something like this work with one of those Cavision matte boxes?

December 9th, 2002, 05:42 PM	#12
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	$HOOT a 16:9 hole in your wallet http://www.optexint.com/digivid/xlanam.htm built for 72mm optics around $2.5K

October 22nd, 2002, 01:32 PM	#2
Ted Jan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 36	unfortunately it's not out yet. Panasonic has listed in the manual that there are several accessories that will be made available sometime next year, and the 16:9 lens is one of them.

October 22nd, 2002, 02:30 PM	#4
Terrence Smith Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 16	It is unclear (at this time) if the Panasonic anamorphic adapter is identical to the one reportedly under design by Century Precision. The actual lens diameter is apparently 58mm and the oversized 72mm filter thread allows the mounting of optical accessories with zoom-through and no vignetting.

November 11th, 2002, 08:44 PM	#7
Clayton Farr Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 94	At first I was unable to find it on their site, but here is a direct link should anyone need it: http://www.zgc.com/html/anamorphic_attachment.html#xl1 (scroll up page for general information on adapter) - Clayton

November 15th, 2002, 07:24 PM	#8
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Clayton, Have you been running any more test with the DVX-100? I recall your doing a great first review with a promise of a follow-up. I was just curious if you started the follow-up yet. Thanks, Nick

November 16th, 2002, 12:24 AM	#9
Clayton Farr Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 94	Hi Nick, Thanks for the nice feedback. I am still in the midst of pulling together said tests amidst using the camera currently on a short film. Here is a link to some frame grabs (as native DV within quicktime movie) from this project: ftp://ftp.globalartways.org/outgoing...oot_110902.mov (ftp://ftp.globalartways.org/outgoing/dvx100_shoot_110902.mov) In short, I have been very impressed with the capabilities of the camera when used thoughtfully. I think these frames are good examples of what it can do with some decent lighting. (As mentioned in the file, if at all possible view them out on a reasonably calibrated NTSC monitor to really see what they look like.) I am currently touching base with Chris to post some clips of this footage. There is not a whole lot of motion but even so the results seem to do a very nice job of emulating film on a production or television monitor (haven't performed the step of converting footage to film and projecting yet...) Hope this helps - I'd be interested in hearing anyone's feedback, Clayton (Also, I didn't intend to hijack this thread. If Chris, Stephen, or Terrence think that this post would be better moved somewhere else or under a different heading please feel free to do so...)

November 16th, 2002, 03:06 AM	#10
katelins Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 31	No problem Clayton. I think we're all waiting on solid information for this camcorder - I know I am. Looking forward to your further contributions, thanks for doing so. (For those of you who were wondering, the Cavision matte box fitted for the DVX100 will work with the current Optex anamorphic adapter according to my friend who is buying one from them soon)

November 16th, 2002, 06:27 AM	#11
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Thanks Clayton. Wonder if you would give you opinion on the following question. Although the DVX100's most unique feature is the film mode, how would you rate it as a camcorder for general amateur use? In other words, if a consumer (not interested in making film-look movies) wanted a good, solid camcorder that delivered a good picture (more natural color as opposed to the blue side of the spectrum and a sharp detail as opposed to soft detail), would this be a camcorder to consider? Thanks for continuing to share your experiences with the DVX100. Nick

December 14th, 2002, 09:27 PM	#13
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yup. These adaptors aren't cheap. Perhaps just use the built-in 16:9 mode, or wait a few years for prosumer HD cams to come out.

January 1st, 2003, 03:12 PM	#14
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Pricy... and constrained. I'd wait for Pana to come out with something.

January 1st, 2003, 03:29 PM	#15
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Century Optics showed a prototype 72mm anamorphic at DV Expo West; expect pricing around $1500 and availability hopefully before NAB. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!