Combining CG with DVX100 footage? at DVinfo.net

Evan Clare · April 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM

Hey guys, Im the new guy around here and I live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada, eh :). I'm planning to shoot a movie in the second week of June, so I've narrowed my choices down to either the XL1 or the DVX100, but since I can rent them for the same price I've chosen the DVX100. Now, I've been teaching myself how to use 3D software (like Lightwave) and I'd like to be able to match my CG with the DVX100s footage. The only problem I foresee is this Cinema Gamma that Ive been hearing about. Is there a way to set it to a normal setting so that when the time comes I can simply match my CG with the same lighting I had when I "filmed"? I'm pretty sure there is a normal setting, but I'd like to make sure just in case. Also, since I like the look of Cinema Gamma would there be a way for me to apply that in post (I use Premiere Pro and After Effects), so that after I've matched the CG I could have the Cinema Gamma look? Hey I just realized one more thing. I'm using Premiere Pro and I havent heard of anyone with a DVX100 using Premiere. Would it still be able to edit the 24P advanced? Sorry if Im bogging you guys with all these questions, but I'm new to the camera and I gotta learn everything before I rent it (unless they provide a manual :). Gotta make sure my bases are covered :) , thanks for any help!

Peter Moore · April 29th, 2004, 12:59 PM

Cine-gamma is actually one of the many modes the DVX100 supports, so you certainly don't have to use it. And any NLE will let you adjust the gamma of your CG generated footage to help it match - you'll likely want to do this manually but you will have little difficulty, I think, matching it.

Vegas is the only NLE I know of that supports 24pA mode.

Evan Clare · April 29th, 2004, 01:29 PM

Thanks Peter, do you know of any web sites I could check out that talk about adjusting the Gamma? I've been saving up some cash so maybe Ill look into getting Vegas. Thanks again :)

Peter Moore · April 30th, 2004, 12:02 PM

Web sites about adjusting the gamma on the camera? The manual pretty much covers it, I think. Also at the top of the forum here there's some great links about the camera controls. As far as adjusting the gamma in an NLE, I don't know of any cites but usually it's best to experiment, I think, or use the presets.

Evan Clare · April 30th, 2004, 03:57 PM

Thanks again Peter, I think that After effects might be able to adjust gamma if not Premiere, as it has a lot of changeable perimeters.

Edit: Hey good news, I just found the perfect turorial for this and it was on DVInfo.net the whole time. Here it is for anyone interested http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/filmlook/broadway2.php

April 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM	#1
Evan Clare New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 16	Combining CG with DVX100 footage? Hey guys, Im the new guy around here and I live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada, eh :). I'm planning to shoot a movie in the second week of June, so I've narrowed my choices down to either the XL1 or the DVX100, but since I can rent them for the same price I've chosen the DVX100. Now, I've been teaching myself how to use 3D software (like Lightwave) and I'd like to be able to match my CG with the DVX100s footage. The only problem I foresee is this Cinema Gamma that Ive been hearing about. Is there a way to set it to a normal setting so that when the time comes I can simply match my CG with the same lighting I had when I "filmed"? I'm pretty sure there is a normal setting, but I'd like to make sure just in case. Also, since I like the look of Cinema Gamma would there be a way for me to apply that in post (I use Premiere Pro and After Effects), so that after I've matched the CG I could have the Cinema Gamma look? Hey I just realized one more thing. I'm using Premiere Pro and I havent heard of anyone with a DVX100 using Premiere. Would it still be able to edit the 24P advanced? Sorry if Im bogging you guys with all these questions, but I'm new to the camera and I gotta learn everything before I rent it (unless they provide a manual :). Gotta make sure my bases are covered :) , thanks for any help! __________________ -Evan Clare

April 29th, 2004, 01:29 PM	#3
Evan Clare New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 16	Thanks Peter, do you know of any web sites I could check out that talk about adjusting the Gamma? I've been saving up some cash so maybe Ill look into getting Vegas. Thanks again :) __________________ -Evan Clare

April 30th, 2004, 03:57 PM	#5
Evan Clare New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton Posts: 16	Thanks again Peter, I think that After effects might be able to adjust gamma if not Premiere, as it has a lot of changeable perimeters. Edit: Hey good news, I just found the perfect turorial for this and it was on DVInfo.net the whole time. Here it is for anyone interested http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/filmlook/broadway2.php __________________ -Evan Clare

April 29th, 2004, 12:59 PM	#2
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Cine-gamma is actually one of the many modes the DVX100 supports, so you certainly don't have to use it. And any NLE will let you adjust the gamma of your CG generated footage to help it match - you'll likely want to do this manually but you will have little difficulty, I think, matching it. Vegas is the only NLE I know of that supports 24pA mode.

April 30th, 2004, 12:02 PM	#4
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Web sites about adjusting the gamma on the camera? The manual pretty much covers it, I think. Also at the top of the forum here there's some great links about the camera controls. As far as adjusting the gamma in an NLE, I don't know of any cites but usually it's best to experiment, I think, or use the presets.