AG-DVC30 various topics

Dan Burnap · May 22nd, 2007, 03:39 AM

Hi Ian

I can't give you a definte solution to this one from memory but I had similiar issue a while back. A couple of things to check:

Are you using the original AV cable that came with the DVC30? I once tried using the cable (with all the same connectors) from a digital still camera, no joy.

Also, be very precise about the mode settings. It seems to ring a bell that to record from AV the camera needs to be in VCR mode, no Record mode....(could of got that completely wrong)...

Jeffrey Lovell · May 22nd, 2007, 11:54 AM

I'm not at my 30 right now, but you need to stay in "VCR" mode. When you have the video from the VHS playing press and hold the 2 REC buttons on the camera (with the LCD display open) and it will start recording. This will not make the video better but it may be somewhat better for archiving.

Question, if you are going through all of this why not just import the VHs video to your editing software and output it as a DVD and then it won;t go bad.

Jeff

Ian Landy · May 22nd, 2007, 08:40 PM

Thanks Heaps Guys,

Mission accomplished!

Andy Loos · July 25th, 2007, 10:13 PM

Well I Just purchased a DVC30 as a back up camera for our dvx100b. I was also looking at getting the infrared adapter to allow farther filming. Any thoughts before I order one?

I will be using the infrared for wildlife filming.

Has anyone used the infrared with this camera? Whats your thoughts?

Gavin Smith · July 26th, 2007, 10:02 AM

1st timer here. I'm trying to capture old vhs-c tapes to my computer. I tried the "dazzle" route but it drops frames like crazy. I've recorded to my DVC-30 then catured and that works fine, but the manual (and what I want to do) makes it sound like I can use the camera to turn the signal to digital and cature the footage through the camera without actually recording to tape first. But when I try that as soon as I hit capture it starts capturing the camcorder tape not the VCR tape. What's the trick, or is there one? (I hope this isn't a "if I had a nickle every time I heard that question" question)
BTW I'm using Vegas 4.0 & firewire cable.

Jeffrey Lovell · July 26th, 2007, 01:33 PM

Hi Gavin,

This is fairly easy. Just connect the AV cables that came with the 30 to the video output of the VHS player and plug the other end into the AV jack on the side of the 30.

Connect the 30 to your computer via firewire.

Turn on the VHS player and turn on the 30. Once the 30 comes up, put it in player mode.

The camera should see the signal (I'm thinking your VHS player will output a blue screen if it is not playing a tape) and switch the AV cooonection to an 'input' and show you the incoming video from the VHS player on the viewfinder of the 30. It might take a second or 2 for this to happen.

Play the video and verify the sign is passing through the 30. You shoud then be able to fire up Vegas and to a "live" capture, meaning you have to set it to ignore frame drops. I don't have Vegas so I'm not sure how. You do not want Vegas to control the 30 as you normally do when capturing from the miniDV tape.

Look through the manual for the 30, I think it is all in there. I do this quite a bit when I get jobs for transfering VHS or 8mm to DVD.

Jeff

Jeffrey Lovell · July 26th, 2007, 01:59 PM

Sorry I can not help you with the IR adapter that is available. I have only used the built in IR. It works nice but not much range. The various SMS modes are nice and it does a good job as far as picture clarity.

Jeff

Gavin Smith · July 26th, 2007, 02:26 PM

OK, Vegas must be the issue. I was doing everything the way you said, now I have to figure out how to change the capture control in Vegas. Thanks Jeff. (I've recently started my own videography business and was wondering how much you charged to transfer VHS/8mm tapes to DVD)
-Gavin

Jeffrey Lovell · July 27th, 2007, 01:33 PM

If it is one tape I usually change $20. I did a whole series of hi8's amd miniDV for a friend for $60. Try not to charge too much so I get repeat busniess.

I only do this part time, weddings, other events, promotional DVD's church work. Good hobby that brings in some money!

Jeff

Gavin Smith · July 27th, 2007, 04:04 PM

Success! In the capture window there's an "options" heading, clicked on that and UNCLICKED control DV device.Then when I click capture it captures the VCR feed not the camcorder tape. The other thing is to change the DV OUT setting to "ON" on the DVC 30. It's under AV IN/OUT SETUP. Thanks for the help, both camera and business, and I hope any and all this info helps someone else too!
-Gavin

Tim Painter · July 29th, 2007, 06:53 AM

I am not sure how much the IR adapter for the dvc30 costs, but if I recall, it was pretty steep. It is just an IR light -- when I bought my dvc30 a couple of years ago, there were a number of other IR lights for a whole lot less than the panasonic version. You might check B&H or ebay for infrared lights and save some money going that route instead.

Andy Loos · July 29th, 2007, 09:30 PM

THanks guys.

Have you heard of anyone using these adaptors? I am just curious if its worth the money.
you are right tim, they are very spendy. Thanks for the tip.

Jeffrey Lovell · July 30th, 2007, 07:40 AM

Glad you got it all worked ok. Have fun, the 30 is a great camera. Wish I had extra funds to get a second. Just did a wedding a week ago and had to borrow a hi8mm cam for my second. Now I have to do a bunch of color correcting.

Jeff

Gavin Smith · July 30th, 2007, 12:27 PM

Thanks again Jeff! This was my first forum of any kind, and you made it a great experience. I'll be visiting much...(good luck with the wedding video!)

Gavin Smith · August 2nd, 2007, 07:36 AM

Looking for a good tripod with a fluid head, for shooting sports, that doesn't break the bank. Any good suggestions?

May 22nd, 2007, 11:54 AM	#242
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	I'm not at my 30 right now, but you need to stay in "VCR" mode. When you have the video from the VHS playing press and hold the 2 REC buttons on the camera (with the LCD display open) and it will start recording. This will not make the video better but it may be somewhat better for archiving. Question, if you are going through all of this why not just import the VHs video to your editing software and output it as a DVD and then it won;t go bad. Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 25th, 2007, 10:13 PM	#244
Andy Loos Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	DVC30 Infrared? Well I Just purchased a DVC30 as a back up camera for our dvx100b. I was also looking at getting the infrared adapter to allow farther filming. Any thoughts before I order one? I will be using the infrared for wildlife filming. Has anyone used the infrared with this camera? Whats your thoughts?

July 26th, 2007, 10:02 AM	#245
Gavin Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 5	Capturing from VCR through DVC-30 to computer 1st timer here. I'm trying to capture old vhs-c tapes to my computer. I tried the "dazzle" route but it drops frames like crazy. I've recorded to my DVC-30 then catured and that works fine, but the manual (and what I want to do) makes it sound like I can use the camera to turn the signal to digital and cature the footage through the camera without actually recording to tape first. But when I try that as soon as I hit capture it starts capturing the camcorder tape not the VCR tape. What's the trick, or is there one? (I hope this isn't a "if I had a nickle every time I heard that question" question) BTW I'm using Vegas 4.0 & firewire cable.

July 26th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#246
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	Hi Gavin, This is fairly easy. Just connect the AV cables that came with the 30 to the video output of the VHS player and plug the other end into the AV jack on the side of the 30. Connect the 30 to your computer via firewire. Turn on the VHS player and turn on the 30. Once the 30 comes up, put it in player mode. The camera should see the signal (I'm thinking your VHS player will output a blue screen if it is not playing a tape) and switch the AV cooonection to an 'input' and show you the incoming video from the VHS player on the viewfinder of the 30. It might take a second or 2 for this to happen. Play the video and verify the sign is passing through the 30. You shoud then be able to fire up Vegas and to a "live" capture, meaning you have to set it to ignore frame drops. I don't have Vegas so I'm not sure how. You do not want Vegas to control the 30 as you normally do when capturing from the miniDV tape. Look through the manual for the 30, I think it is all in there. I do this quite a bit when I get jobs for transfering VHS or 8mm to DVD. Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 26th, 2007, 01:59 PM	#247
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	Sorry I can not help you with the IR adapter that is available. I have only used the built in IR. It works nice but not much range. The various SMS modes are nice and it does a good job as far as picture clarity. Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

May 22nd, 2007, 03:39 AM	#241
Dan Burnap Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 335	Hi Ian I can't give you a definte solution to this one from memory but I had similiar issue a while back. A couple of things to check: Are you using the original AV cable that came with the DVC30? I once tried using the cable (with all the same connectors) from a digital still camera, no joy. Also, be very precise about the mode settings. It seems to ring a bell that to record from AV the camera needs to be in VCR mode, no Record mode....(could of got that completely wrong)...

May 22nd, 2007, 08:40 PM	#243
Ian Landy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ocean Shores NSW Australia Posts: 28	Thanks Heaps Guys, Mission accomplished!

July 26th, 2007, 02:26 PM	#248
Gavin Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 5	OK, Vegas must be the issue. I was doing everything the way you said, now I have to figure out how to change the capture control in Vegas. Thanks Jeff. (I've recently started my own videography business and was wondering how much you charged to transfer VHS/8mm tapes to DVD) -Gavin

July 27th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#249
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	If it is one tape I usually change $20. I did a whole series of hi8's amd miniDV for a friend for $60. Try not to charge too much so I get repeat busniess. I only do this part time, weddings, other events, promotional DVD's church work. Good hobby that brings in some money! Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 27th, 2007, 04:04 PM	#250
Gavin Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 5	Success! In the capture window there's an "options" heading, clicked on that and UNCLICKED control DV device.Then when I click capture it captures the VCR feed not the camcorder tape. The other thing is to change the DV OUT setting to "ON" on the DVC 30. It's under AV IN/OUT SETUP. Thanks for the help, both camera and business, and I hope any and all this info helps someone else too! -Gavin

July 29th, 2007, 06:53 AM	#251
Tim Painter New Boot Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 19	I am not sure how much the IR adapter for the dvc30 costs, but if I recall, it was pretty steep. It is just an IR light -- when I bought my dvc30 a couple of years ago, there were a number of other IR lights for a whole lot less than the panasonic version. You might check B&H or ebay for infrared lights and save some money going that route instead.

July 29th, 2007, 09:30 PM	#252
Andy Loos Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 84	THanks guys. Have you heard of anyone using these adaptors? I am just curious if its worth the money. you are right tim, they are very spendy. Thanks for the tip.

July 30th, 2007, 07:40 AM	#253
Jeffrey Lovell Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 61	Glad you got it all worked ok. Have fun, the 30 is a great camera. Wish I had extra funds to get a second. Just did a wedding a week ago and had to borrow a hi8mm cam for my second. Now I have to do a bunch of color correcting. Jeff __________________ Created Design Video Video production for the common man

July 30th, 2007, 12:27 PM	#254
Gavin Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 5	Thanks again Jeff! This was my first forum of any kind, and you made it a great experience. I'll be visiting much...(good luck with the wedding video!)

August 2nd, 2007, 07:36 AM	#255
Gavin Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 5	Tripod for DVC-30 Looking for a good tripod with a fluid head, for shooting sports, that doesn't break the bank. Any good suggestions?