DVX100 Set-up. Help. at DVinfo.net

Grant McClintock · March 4th, 2004, 04:34 PM

I am attempting to set up my DVX 100 for the first time. The crazy of too many choices.

I need to set the camera for an outdoor shoot. I want to use 30p for reasons of editing. The final product will be a DVD to be viewed primarily on TVs but also on computer monitors. I would like it to look as "cine-like" as possible.

--Should I set the gamma at Cine-Like? If so, should I reset the iris lower by a couple of points?

--Ditto Matrix setting. Cine-like?

--V Detail Freg. Have no idea what this is, but it sounds important. Do I set thick or thin for DVD played back on TV?

--For an me66 mic, do I want the gain set at 50 db or 60 db? Same question for the Panny MC100.

Any help will be much appreciated. Grant

John Hudson · March 5th, 2004, 12:51 AM

Im curious of what NLE you are using? You will get a more filmic image using 24p than 30i. Thats fine though.

Yes to all but...

Keep detail THIN.

Probally can use default settings and adjust in post.

Stefan Scherperel · March 5th, 2004, 03:09 AM

Hey John, I'll have to dissagree with you on one point. Never thought I would say that!
If your showing your footage primarily on TVs I would set your detail level to mid or thick. Mid preferably since it will be viewd on computer monitors. When using thin mode I have noticed some distracting thin line artifacts that show up on an interlaced television screen. It is nice to know that that kind of fine detail is available if need.
And yes John, I know that you can just add a slight blur in post, but if it's a lot of footage, and you know that it will never go out to film, I'd just save some time and shoot mid or thick.

Shai Levy · March 5th, 2004, 04:38 AM

i wouldn't recommend the cine-matrix. it delivers a too saturated look to my taste. i usually keep "normal" in matrix, and take chroma level some (2-3) steps below zero. that will let you more freedom in color correction later on.

Grant McClintock · March 5th, 2004, 07:17 AM

Thanks for these replies. Very helpfulful. John, I should have mentioned that I am using FCE to edit (not much choice here at the moment). Otherwise I would probably give 24p at shot.

The "thick-or-thin-for-DVD" issue seems a bit like circular vs linear polarizers--proponents on both sides. I can test shoot for gamma etc but I am worried about making a mistake here (thick/thin) that I would have to deal with in post. Unfortunately I must start shooting the "real deal" very soon, like tomorrow, so I have to set something.

Thanks again, Grant

John Hudson · March 5th, 2004, 11:27 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Stefan Scherperel : Hey John, I'll have to dissagree with you on one point. Never thought I would say that!
If your showing your footage primarily on TVs I would set your detail level to mid or thick. Mid preferably since it will be viewd on computer monitors. When using thin mode I have noticed some distracting thin line artifacts that show up on an interlaced television screen. It is nice to know that that kind of fine detail is available if need.
And yes John, I know that you can just add a slight blur in post, but if it's a lot of footage, and you know that it will never go out to film, I'd just save some time and shoot mid or thick. -->>>

LOL

I have to admit Im not the authority on Thick versus Thin but do prefer to shoot THIN myself. So I wont even disagree back!

Stefan Scherperel · March 5th, 2004, 11:35 AM

THat's me, Mr. thick and thin.

March 4th, 2004, 04:34 PM	#1
Grant McClintock Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK, United States Posts: 28	DVX100 Set-up. Help. I am attempting to set up my DVX 100 for the first time. The crazy of too many choices. I need to set the camera for an outdoor shoot. I want to use 30p for reasons of editing. The final product will be a DVD to be viewed primarily on TVs but also on computer monitors. I would like it to look as "cine-like" as possible. --Should I set the gamma at Cine-Like? If so, should I reset the iris lower by a couple of points? --Ditto Matrix setting. Cine-like? --V Detail Freg. Have no idea what this is, but it sounds important. Do I set thick or thin for DVD played back on TV? --For an me66 mic, do I want the gain set at 50 db or 60 db? Same question for the Panny MC100. Any help will be much appreciated. Grant

March 5th, 2004, 12:51 AM	#2
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Im curious of what NLE you are using? You will get a more filmic image using 24p than 30i. Thats fine though. Yes to all but... Keep detail THIN. Probally can use default settings and adjust in post.

March 5th, 2004, 03:09 AM	#3
Stefan Scherperel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 209	Hey John, I'll have to dissagree with you on one point. Never thought I would say that! If your showing your footage primarily on TVs I would set your detail level to mid or thick. Mid preferably since it will be viewd on computer monitors. When using thin mode I have noticed some distracting thin line artifacts that show up on an interlaced television screen. It is nice to know that that kind of fine detail is available if need. And yes John, I know that you can just add a slight blur in post, but if it's a lot of footage, and you know that it will never go out to film, I'd just save some time and shoot mid or thick.

March 5th, 2004, 04:38 AM	#4
Shai Levy Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 31	i wouldn't recommend the cine-matrix. it delivers a too saturated look to my taste. i usually keep "normal" in matrix, and take chroma level some (2-3) steps below zero. that will let you more freedom in color correction later on.

March 5th, 2004, 07:17 AM	#5
Grant McClintock Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK, United States Posts: 28	Thanks for these replies. Very helpfulful. John, I should have mentioned that I am using FCE to edit (not much choice here at the moment). Otherwise I would probably give 24p at shot. The "thick-or-thin-for-DVD" issue seems a bit like circular vs linear polarizers--proponents on both sides. I can test shoot for gamma etc but I am worried about making a mistake here (thick/thin) that I would have to deal with in post. Unfortunately I must start shooting the "real deal" very soon, like tomorrow, so I have to set something. Thanks again, Grant

March 5th, 2004, 11:27 AM	#6
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	<<<-- Originally posted by Stefan Scherperel : Hey John, I'll have to dissagree with you on one point. Never thought I would say that! If your showing your footage primarily on TVs I would set your detail level to mid or thick. Mid preferably since it will be viewd on computer monitors. When using thin mode I have noticed some distracting thin line artifacts that show up on an interlaced television screen. It is nice to know that that kind of fine detail is available if need. And yes John, I know that you can just add a slight blur in post, but if it's a lot of footage, and you know that it will never go out to film, I'd just save some time and shoot mid or thick. -->>> LOL I have to admit Im not the authority on Thick versus Thin but do prefer to shoot THIN myself. So I wont even disagree back!

March 5th, 2004, 11:35 AM	#7
Stefan Scherperel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 209	THat's me, Mr. thick and thin.