Tell me what camera to get...(just kidding) at DVinfo.net

Fenn Jacob · December 29th, 2003, 12:38 PM

Hello good forum members!
In no way is this post intended to resemble the classic "Just tell me the best camera to get" question. I have spent some good time researching the usual SD cameras (Xl1, PD150, DVX100 etc.) and concluded many times that I had made my decision on each of them. I began at the XL1s and had no need for the interchangeable lenses or its flashy pro look, so I moved on to the PD150. After many hours of research and reviews, I am now at the Pan DVX100 (or 100A---whichever I feel I can get a better deal on :))
Ultimately my question has come to this. The 24p feature of the Panny is no doubt its largest selling point. I, however, am currently limited with Premiere Pro, and don't like the choppy look of 24p unadvanced, so most of my work would not be in 24p. This at first led me to remove the DVX100 from my list- the extra price wasn't worth 24p. However, I looked into the camera, and its other features speak well of it--24p excluded. The Pd150 has 380k CCDs, the XL1s 270k, or something like this I believe? The DVX has 410k? Plus a manual lens, and XLR inputs. These two would save me a lot of money over the Canon. Also, even if I don't often use 24p, a good "true progressive" 30p would be nice. So, I do not ask which to buy, but make a statement that seems legitimite from my studies. The Panasonic AG-DVX100 is a most excellent camera for standard 30p or 60i footage and easily comparable to the Canon or Sony equivalents. I am no camera intellect, and would appreciate the "experts" opinions on the validity of this statement. It just seems to me that we have let the 24p feature of the camera belittle its other great qualities, in good old non filmic 29.97.

Thank you very much for reading, please contribute your thoughts...

Frank Granovski · December 29th, 2003, 01:58 PM

From what I gather from your thoughts, you want a DVX100A. Note: only this prosumer cam has progressive scan (which you mentioned you want) while the others only have frame mode.

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...in good old non filmic 29.97

The PD170 is also mighty fine but no 30P.

Stephen van Vuuren · December 29th, 2003, 02:32 PM

Yes, the 30p mode is great as long as your are not planning on going out to film, creating a 24p progressive DVD or using Magic Bullet to get 24p.

There was a thread on the 30p mode a few weeks ago as it the forgotten feature.

Barry Green · December 30th, 2003, 10:07 AM

" easily comparable to the Canon or Sony equivalents"

I'd modify that to say "easily comparable to the Sony, and quite superior to the Canon."

Also, if you truly have no interest in shooting progressive, don't forget the superb AG-DVC80...

Fenn Jacob · December 30th, 2003, 01:43 PM

Frank, I just wanted to clarify your post. The 100 and 100A both shoot true progressive, correct? The way it's written first led me to believe that you mean only in the 100A. Is it so? The 100 will, too, right?

Just checking...

Ryan Gohlinghorst · December 30th, 2003, 02:12 PM

Yes, the 100 shoots true progressive as well (both 24p and 30p).

December 29th, 2003, 12:38 PM	#1
Fenn Jacob New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thatcher UT Posts: 14	Tell me what camera to get...(just kidding) Hello good forum members! In no way is this post intended to resemble the classic "Just tell me the best camera to get" question. I have spent some good time researching the usual SD cameras (Xl1, PD150, DVX100 etc.) and concluded many times that I had made my decision on each of them. I began at the XL1s and had no need for the interchangeable lenses or its flashy pro look, so I moved on to the PD150. After many hours of research and reviews, I am now at the Pan DVX100 (or 100A---whichever I feel I can get a better deal on :)) Ultimately my question has come to this. The 24p feature of the Panny is no doubt its largest selling point. I, however, am currently limited with Premiere Pro, and don't like the choppy look of 24p unadvanced, so most of my work would not be in 24p. This at first led me to remove the DVX100 from my list- the extra price wasn't worth 24p. However, I looked into the camera, and its other features speak well of it--24p excluded. The Pd150 has 380k CCDs, the XL1s 270k, or something like this I believe? The DVX has 410k? Plus a manual lens, and XLR inputs. These two would save me a lot of money over the Canon. Also, even if I don't often use 24p, a good "true progressive" 30p would be nice. So, I do not ask which to buy, but make a statement that seems legitimite from my studies. The Panasonic AG-DVX100 is a most excellent camera for standard 30p or 60i footage and easily comparable to the Canon or Sony equivalents. I am no camera intellect, and would appreciate the "experts" opinions on the validity of this statement. It just seems to me that we have let the 24p feature of the camera belittle its other great qualities, in good old non filmic 29.97. Thank you very much for reading, please contribute your thoughts...

December 29th, 2003, 02:32 PM	#3
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Yes, the 30p mode is great as long as your are not planning on going out to film, creating a 24p progressive DVD or using Magic Bullet to get 24p. There was a thread on the 30p mode a few weeks ago as it the forgotten feature. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

December 30th, 2003, 01:43 PM	#5
Fenn Jacob New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thatcher UT Posts: 14	100/100A Frank, I just wanted to clarify your post. The 100 and 100A both shoot true progressive, correct? The way it's written first led me to believe that you mean only in the 100A. Is it so? The 100 will, too, right? Just checking...

December 30th, 2003, 02:12 PM	#6
Ryan Gohlinghorst Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mankato, Minnesota Posts: 104	Yes, the 100 shoots true progressive as well (both 24p and 30p). __________________ http://www.horsefilms.com "I like Mankato just a little bit better than any other town in the world." -Sinclair Lewis

December 30th, 2003, 10:07 AM	#4
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	" easily comparable to the Canon or Sony equivalents" I'd modify that to say "easily comparable to the Sony, and quite superior to the Canon." Also, if you truly have no interest in shooting progressive, don't forget the superb AG-DVC80...