Controlling the outside at DVinfo.net

Scott Moore · November 19th, 2003, 03:07 PM

I'm currently test driving the DVX100 -

the 24p images are amazingingly rich; indoors,
that is - when i can control lights, filtering, temperature, etc.

however, when I shoot out in sunlight, the richness is gone and it starts to look painfully
video-esque again

any tips on how to preserve that nice film look
when dealing with LOTS of outdoor light?

Ken Tanaka · November 19th, 2003, 04:47 PM

Basically, control the outdoor light to the extent possible. This will generally mean using those ND filters and perhaps adding an additional ND to the lens under extremely bright conditions. Next, control that iris.

In general, it's best to avoid shooting in extremely bright midday sunlight. It's harsh and hard to manage for any video camera. Early morning and later afternoon are far better shooting times if possible.

Peter J Alessandria · November 19th, 2003, 06:26 PM

In addition to Ken's suggestions, experiment with master ped settings and chroma levels in the scene file settings.

Stephen van Vuuren · November 19th, 2003, 07:32 PM

Also, underexpose highlights in cinegamma mode by 1-2 stops, you can reclaim the shadow detail with appropriate post tools

Ken Tanaka · November 19th, 2003, 08:25 PM

Ahh, and if you can't avoid the bright midday sun a good polarizing filter may greatly help eliminate veiling glare and put some saturation back into your colors.

November 19th, 2003, 03:07 PM	#1
Scott Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 48	Controlling the outside I'm currently test driving the DVX100 - the 24p images are amazingingly rich; indoors, that is - when i can control lights, filtering, temperature, etc. however, when I shoot out in sunlight, the richness is gone and it starts to look painfully video-esque again any tips on how to preserve that nice film look when dealing with LOTS of outdoor light?

November 19th, 2003, 04:47 PM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Basically, control the outdoor light to the extent possible. This will generally mean using those ND filters and perhaps adding an additional ND to the lens under extremely bright conditions. Next, control that iris. In general, it's best to avoid shooting in extremely bright midday sunlight. It's harsh and hard to manage for any video camera. Early morning and later afternoon are far better shooting times if possible. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

November 19th, 2003, 07:32 PM	#4
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Also, underexpose highlights in cinegamma mode by 1-2 stops, you can reclaim the shadow detail with appropriate post tools __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

November 19th, 2003, 08:25 PM	#5
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Ahh, and if you can't avoid the bright midday sun a good polarizing filter may greatly help eliminate veiling glare and put some saturation back into your colors. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

November 19th, 2003, 06:26 PM	#3
Peter J Alessandria Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 293	In addition to Ken's suggestions, experiment with master ped settings and chroma levels in the scene file settings.