New AG-DVX100A announced - please post all threads here - frame grabs available

Len Feldman · December 2nd, 2003, 11:31 AM

Frederic:

That's generally true, and Sony's XDCAM is an excellent example; shown first at NAB last April, but it's still not available. However, there are a lot of products that are announced at or before NAB that become available in the channel either right after NAB or within 60-90 days.

I've found that manufacturers don't announce products too early if they're going to cannibalize their existing product line (the Osborne effect). If they don't think that they can ship by the end of the summer, they hold the product announcement for IBC in September. For example, the XDCAM was shown at NAB as a technology preview with no announced availability date, and it didn't impact sales of Sony's other products. It was "productized" at IBC, and it will likely ship in the next 60 days.

There are always exceptions, like Play's Trinity, which was shown at conferences for three years before it actually shipped, but by and large, companies that show working prototypes at NAB expect to be shipping no later than September.

Best wishes,
Len Feldman
Riverbend Entertainment

Michael Struthers · December 2nd, 2003, 11:48 PM

Panny came out with this camera so soon - everyone is already getting their HD stuff ready. The pdx100a has about a 6 month shelf life.

Frederic Segard · December 3rd, 2003, 07:22 AM

Not too sure about that! I'd say not until HD-DVD comes out. Sure you can shoot HD, but how are you going to distribute it? D-VHS? Windows Media 9? There just aren't any viable consumer HD distributable medium out there. So HD, although available on cable and satellite by broadcasters, is not yet a reality for those of us who rely on DVD (and God forbid, VHS) to distribute our content. SD/DV will still be here for the next couple of years. I'm not saying that HD does not have it's place, far from it. I'm just saying that SD is far from dead. Just remember that 480p is one of the ATSC standards for distributable HD... something to think about.

Bruce A. Christenson · December 3rd, 2003, 12:33 PM

Wouldn't a regular DVD created from HD source look better than a regular DVD created from SD source? Assuming all the other factors like lenses/lighting/etc. (cost - ha!) are held constant.

Barry Green · December 3rd, 2003, 01:29 PM

Depends on the camera, but yes, of course it would. Even with the little HD1 camera, the image retains an incredible amount of sharpness and detail after downsizing to DVD. I don't care for the rest of the image, I think the DVX does a much better job with latitude, saturation, color rendition, motion, all other factors -- but the sharpness is retained.

I am eagerly awaiting the next HDV camera.

John Britt · December 4th, 2003, 12:09 AM

Alright...here you go: Adam Wilt's first-look at the DVX100A over at dv.com:

http://www.dv.com/features/features_...equestid=28488

December 4th, 2003, 09:20 AM

Thanks John. This is a great pre-review.

Stephen van Vuuren · December 4th, 2003, 11:02 AM

Get your frame grabs here.

December 2nd, 2003, 11:48 PM	#122
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	That' why Panny came out with this camera so soon - everyone is already getting their HD stuff ready. The pdx100a has about a 6 month shelf life.

December 4th, 2003, 12:09 AM	#126
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Adam Wilt's First Look at DVX100A Alright...here you go: Adam Wilt's first-look at the DVX100A over at dv.com: http://www.dv.com/features/features_...equestid=28488

December 4th, 2003, 11:02 AM	#128
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Frame Grabs at http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/ Get your frame grabs here. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

December 2nd, 2003, 11:31 AM	#121
Len Feldman New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Redwood City, CA USA Posts: 11	Frederic: That's generally true, and Sony's XDCAM is an excellent example; shown first at NAB last April, but it's still not available. However, there are a lot of products that are announced at or before NAB that become available in the channel either right after NAB or within 60-90 days. I've found that manufacturers don't announce products too early if they're going to cannibalize their existing product line (the Osborne effect). If they don't think that they can ship by the end of the summer, they hold the product announcement for IBC in September. For example, the XDCAM was shown at NAB as a technology preview with no announced availability date, and it didn't impact sales of Sony's other products. It was "productized" at IBC, and it will likely ship in the next 60 days. There are always exceptions, like Play's Trinity, which was shown at conferences for three years before it actually shipped, but by and large, companies that show working prototypes at NAB expect to be shipping no later than September. Best wishes, Len Feldman Riverbend Entertainment

December 3rd, 2003, 07:22 AM	#123
Frederic Segard Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 209	Not too sure about that! I'd say not until HD-DVD comes out. Sure you can shoot HD, but how are you going to distribute it? D-VHS? Windows Media 9? There just aren't any viable consumer HD distributable medium out there. So HD, although available on cable and satellite by broadcasters, is not yet a reality for those of us who rely on DVD (and God forbid, VHS) to distribute our content. SD/DV will still be here for the next couple of years. I'm not saying that HD does not have it's place, far from it. I'm just saying that SD is far from dead. Just remember that 480p is one of the ATSC standards for distributable HD... something to think about.

December 3rd, 2003, 12:33 PM	#124
Bruce A. Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Forest Grove, OR Posts: 122	Wouldn't a regular DVD created from HD source look better than a regular DVD created from SD source? Assuming all the other factors like lenses/lighting/etc. (cost - ha!) are held constant.

December 3rd, 2003, 01:29 PM	#125
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Depends on the camera, but yes, of course it would. Even with the little HD1 camera, the image retains an incredible amount of sharpness and detail after downsizing to DVD. I don't care for the rest of the image, I think the DVX does a much better job with latitude, saturation, color rendition, motion, all other factors -- but the sharpness is retained. I am eagerly awaiting the next HDV camera.

December 4th, 2003, 09:20 AM	#127
Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks John. This is a great pre-review.