The DVC80 vs. the infamous GL2 at DVinfo.net

Michael Blomgren · November 3rd, 2003, 05:03 PM

Hey guys, I'm about to move up from my Pv-dv953 around Christmas time. I like the price of the GL2, but I feel as if I need better manual controls. Is there any major advantages that one camera has over another? Well, just post what you would like to say about these cameras in comparison to eachother.

Rob Easler · November 3rd, 2003, 05:59 PM

Ok see these threads among others...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15306&highlight=dvc80+gl2

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15718&highlight=dvc80+gl2

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15710

Steve Nunez · November 3rd, 2003, 06:32 PM

I've owned both and both have excellent manual controls. Both cameras produce sharp images with the better zoom going to the GL2 and better wide angle to the DVC80. Both are similarly priced and produce fantastic images. The DVC80 is also less grainy at low light levels......You can't lose with either one.

(The GL2 can shoot 30p which the DVC80 can't- so if shooting progressive is important the GL2 is the only choice)

(The Leica DVC80 lens resolves superb detail at wa macro settings- just my personal observation)
Both cameras are winners.

Jason Chang · November 7th, 2003, 01:03 PM

Steve,

Can you please tell us if there is any difference between the GL2 in Movie Mode and the Panasonic DVC80?? Does Canon's Movie Mode make video resemble film? I would really like to hear from a person who owns both of these camcorders.

Steve Nunez · November 7th, 2003, 05:25 PM

Jason,

The Panasonic DVC80 has no progressive modes so you really can't compare it to the GL2 in movie mode- which is a progressive mode. The Pan is a 60i cam only- you could always deinterlace in post and get a "movie mode" effect- but that's about as close to movie mode you're gonna get. Even without movie mode I find the DVC80 to be superb.

Jason Chang · November 7th, 2003, 08:56 PM

Steve,

Is there a difference in color reproduction? I've owned a VX-2000 and did not like the cold Sony look. I've also owned a Canon XL1 and I found the XL1 to have warmer tones. Would you mind sending me a couple of still shots to illustrate the difference between these two cams?

By the way, does the de-interlaced look achieved in post look identical to Canon's fake 30P? I thank you for taking the time to help me resolve this internal conflict.

Jason

Steve Nunez · November 7th, 2003, 10:18 PM

Jason,

I think many Panasonic users will testify to the neutral color handling of the Pan DVC/DVX series of cameras- they're pretty close to actual colors- with proper WB you probably wont need to adjust colors much. I don;t have allot of time using the DVC so there are others better qualified to give their personal takes on the color "warmth-coolness" issue.

The deinterlaced look is really close to what progressive gives you- there are even alternative "deinterlacers" which when altered parameters are set- you can achieve a slew of "effects" as per "movie or film-look"....Joe's Deinterlacer is one and there are others......have fun.

(hope this helps a little)

Jason Chang · November 8th, 2003, 08:27 AM

Steve,

Thank you for taking the time to anwer my questions.

Steve Nunez · November 8th, 2003, 08:12 PM

No problem Jason......that's what this forum is for.....spreading the knowledge!

November 3rd, 2003, 05:03 PM	#1
Michael Blomgren Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1	The DVC80 vs. the infamous GL2 Hey guys, I'm about to move up from my Pv-dv953 around Christmas time. I like the price of the GL2, but I feel as if I need better manual controls. Is there any major advantages that one camera has over another? Well, just post what you would like to say about these cameras in comparison to eachother. __________________ FL

November 3rd, 2003, 06:32 PM	#3
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	I've owned both and both have excellent manual controls. Both cameras produce sharp images with the better zoom going to the GL2 and better wide angle to the DVC80. Both are similarly priced and produce fantastic images. The DVC80 is also less grainy at low light levels......You can't lose with either one. (The GL2 can shoot 30p which the DVC80 can't- so if shooting progressive is important the GL2 is the only choice) (The Leica DVC80 lens resolves superb detail at wa macro settings- just my personal observation) Both cameras are winners. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

November 7th, 2003, 01:03 PM	#4
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	GL2 vs DVC80 Steve, Can you please tell us if there is any difference between the GL2 in Movie Mode and the Panasonic DVC80?? Does Canon's Movie Mode make video resemble film? I would really like to hear from a person who owns both of these camcorders.

November 7th, 2003, 05:25 PM	#5
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Jason, The Panasonic DVC80 has no progressive modes so you really can't compare it to the GL2 in movie mode- which is a progressive mode. The Pan is a 60i cam only- you could always deinterlace in post and get a "movie mode" effect- but that's about as close to movie mode you're gonna get. Even without movie mode I find the DVC80 to be superb. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

November 7th, 2003, 08:56 PM	#6
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	GL2 VS DVC80 Steve, Is there a difference in color reproduction? I've owned a VX-2000 and did not like the cold Sony look. I've also owned a Canon XL1 and I found the XL1 to have warmer tones. Would you mind sending me a couple of still shots to illustrate the difference between these two cams? By the way, does the de-interlaced look achieved in post look identical to Canon's fake 30P? I thank you for taking the time to help me resolve this internal conflict. Jason

November 3rd, 2003, 05:59 PM	#2
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Ok see these threads among others... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15306&highlight=dvc80+gl2 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15718&highlight=dvc80+gl2 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15710

November 7th, 2003, 10:18 PM	#7
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Jason, I think many Panasonic users will testify to the neutral color handling of the Pan DVC/DVX series of cameras- they're pretty close to actual colors- with proper WB you probably wont need to adjust colors much. I don;t have allot of time using the DVC so there are others better qualified to give their personal takes on the color "warmth-coolness" issue. The deinterlaced look is really close to what progressive gives you- there are even alternative "deinterlacers" which when altered parameters are set- you can achieve a slew of "effects" as per "movie or film-look"....Joe's Deinterlacer is one and there are others......have fun. (hope this helps a little) __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

November 8th, 2003, 08:27 AM	#8
Jason Chang Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 163	Steve, Thank you for taking the time to anwer my questions.

November 8th, 2003, 08:12 PM	#9
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	No problem Jason......that's what this forum is for.....spreading the knowledge! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com