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Neill Dela Llana · October 14th, 2003, 06:41 PM

Hi all new to the forums and new owner of a DVX. I'm planning on shooting a short and ultimately transferring to film. I'd like to know if anyone can recommend me a good baseline for settings.

Shooting conditions include stark sunlight, no artifical lighting, handheld camera, one subject, lots of background action (crowded streets).

Any of your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Stephen van Vuuren · October 14th, 2003, 07:33 PM

If you are planning to transfer to film, start with your film house. I don't know how many have transferred DVX100 footage to 35mm, but call around.

My guess is you will shoot 24p advanced, thin mode, 1/48th or 1/24th shutter, cinegamma, cinematrix.

But without testing, it would be hard to say. Stark sunlight without artificial will be a challenge as cinegamma is extremely unforgiving of blown out highlights. You may need to use normal gamma, and or screens, ND filters (two are built in) to control highlights.

Sean R Allen · October 14th, 2003, 11:03 PM

If you're going to film, you don't want to shoot cinematrix. I seem to recall the best settings are cinegamma, thin, detail -3 or -4, normal matrix. Again, cinematrix approximates the "film look" so if you're going out to true film, you want to transfer the real look (normal) as going to film will itself create the film look.

Ah, found it! Here's a link:

http://dvfilm.com/maker/dvx100settings.htm

Mike Zorger · October 23rd, 2003, 06:29 AM

what about settings in regular 24p.? I dont plan on transferring any of my footage to film.. Thanks

Nick Medrano · October 26th, 2003, 11:33 AM

I'd like to also see someone suggest some good "baseline" scene file settings for those who are shooting in 24pStandard with no intention of going to film.

Anyone?

This is what I have gathered so far from other forums:

Detail Level: -4
Chroma Level: 0
Chroma Phase: -4
Color Temp: 0
Master Ped: -8 (I am not sure if it should be +8 or -8)
A. Iris Level: -2
Gamma: Cine-like
Skin Tone DTL: OFF
Matrix: Cine-Like
V Detail Freq: Thick

Mike Zorger · November 10th, 2003, 08:02 AM

So these settings are the best for 24p?

Marc Martin · November 10th, 2003, 09:41 PM

I have a PAL DVX100. A master pedestal of -8 gives me too contrast and loose some details in low light, and I don't know why everybody put -4 in the chroma phase. Color seems accurate to me at 0, except a little too green (which isn't a phase problem)

Peter Jefferson · November 12th, 2003, 07:50 AM

PAL units ar edifferent mate...

we dont have the phase shifting of the NTSC model...

one thing thou, is that i ALWAYS use Cinematrix (for teh smooth extended contrasts) and a master ped of -1

temperature is set according to location as i find the DVX loves to flush out reds...

i usually shoot wedding this way and skin detail and colour is spotless.
Also i run auto iris at +4, this gives me a good backlight compensation without the need to use the actual comensator.

Nice fast and accurate with colour.. dunno what id do without it now....

Nick Medrano · November 12th, 2003, 09:06 AM

Hi,
I've been shooting with my settings for a while now and am finding that the shots are just too dark and that there are too many strong blacks. So, I am going to increase the Master Ped from -8 to around -1.

October 14th, 2003, 06:41 PM	#1
Neill Dela Llana Tourist Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3	Settings Hi all new to the forums and new owner of a DVX. I'm planning on shooting a short and ultimately transferring to film. I'd like to know if anyone can recommend me a good baseline for settings. Shooting conditions include stark sunlight, no artifical lighting, handheld camera, one subject, lots of background action (crowded streets). Any of your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

October 14th, 2003, 07:33 PM	#2
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	If you are planning to transfer to film, start with your film house. I don't know how many have transferred DVX100 footage to 35mm, but call around. My guess is you will shoot 24p advanced, thin mode, 1/48th or 1/24th shutter, cinegamma, cinematrix. But without testing, it would be hard to say. Stark sunlight without artificial will be a challenge as cinegamma is extremely unforgiving of blown out highlights. You may need to use normal gamma, and or screens, ND filters (two are built in) to control highlights. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

October 14th, 2003, 11:03 PM	#3
Sean R Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: RTP, NC Posts: 66	If you're going to film, you don't want to shoot cinematrix. I seem to recall the best settings are cinegamma, thin, detail -3 or -4, normal matrix. Again, cinematrix approximates the "film look" so if you're going out to true film, you want to transfer the real look (normal) as going to film will itself create the film look. Ah, found it! Here's a link: http://dvfilm.com/maker/dvx100settings.htm

October 23rd, 2003, 06:29 AM	#4
Mike Zorger Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norther VA Posts: 163	what about settings in regular 24p.? I dont plan on transferring any of my footage to film.. Thanks

October 26th, 2003, 11:33 AM	#5
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	I'd like to also see someone suggest some good "baseline" scene file settings for those who are shooting in 24pStandard with no intention of going to film. Anyone? This is what I have gathered so far from other forums: Detail Level: -4 Chroma Level: 0 Chroma Phase: -4 Color Temp: 0 Master Ped: -8 (I am not sure if it should be +8 or -8) A. Iris Level: -2 Gamma: Cine-like Skin Tone DTL: OFF Matrix: Cine-Like V Detail Freq: Thick

November 10th, 2003, 08:02 AM	#6
Mike Zorger Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norther VA Posts: 163	So these settings are the best for 24p?

November 10th, 2003, 09:41 PM	#7
Marc Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Paris, France Posts: 80	I have a PAL DVX100. A master pedestal of -8 gives me too contrast and loose some details in low light, and I don't know why everybody put -4 in the chroma phase. Color seems accurate to me at 0, except a little too green (which isn't a phase problem)

November 12th, 2003, 07:50 AM	#8
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	PAL units ar edifferent mate... we dont have the phase shifting of the NTSC model... one thing thou, is that i ALWAYS use Cinematrix (for teh smooth extended contrasts) and a master ped of -1 temperature is set according to location as i find the DVX loves to flush out reds... i usually shoot wedding this way and skin detail and colour is spotless. Also i run auto iris at +4, this gives me a good backlight compensation without the need to use the actual comensator. Nice fast and accurate with colour.. dunno what id do without it now....

November 12th, 2003, 09:06 AM	#9
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Hi, I've been shooting with my settings for a while now and am finding that the shots are just too dark and that there are too many strong blacks. So, I am going to increase the Master Ped from -8 to around -1.